Gee and I think I know where THIS is going too...more wasted taxpayer dollars into county lawuits fighting state and federal regulations to satisfy the conspiracy theories keeping Rothschild's feeble paranoid mind awake at night! This guy is a crackpot among crackpots and we need to publicly call him out for this and all his other insanity by politely asking him to resign his office immediately. He is an embarrassment of historic proportions and his ridiculous assertions (often expressed as facts) are so far from the mainstream, they bring scorn to the county. His district should feel like a bunch of idiots for electing him. No doubt he revels in the attention he gets from pandering to the Tea Party nuts, but it's time that the citizens of Carroll County stand up for our schools and other govt. sponsored/funded institutions and ask for his resignation. He needs serious professional help.

Rothschild is right ,these leftwingers that run the government think they know better how you should live, they push on the tax payers their perverted way of life with our own tax money. I say stop them now if we still can,

@Gil-How ironic you would find common ground with Rothschild, who thinks people of Spanish descent are all illegal aliens and should be deported...he probably hates your grammar too cowboy!

Rothschild, as we've witnessed time and time again, has seldom seen a state law he's not opposed to, and advocating, as he recently has, taking the state/Federal gonernment to task (court) for what he perceives as their intruding into what is rightfully a local decision as to the composition of school cirriculums.
But so it goes with "world-beaters," who believe they excell all others of their kind in knowing what's right or wrong, with no self-imposed limits placed on how far they'll go to prove it. And at the rate he's going, he'll soon surpass the size of what was known as Nixon's "enemy list," he prepared after being reelected.

The comments by several of the Commissioners are wrong on so many levels it's almost laughable, rather it's quite sad.

Yes, it was the UN that was trying to take over the U.S. and Carroll County so our Commissioners chose to rally against the "Agenda 21 intrusion" into our lives. Yes, the State is taking away our property rights with its central planning. Now the Federal Government is trying to control how our children are being educated. Talk about paranoia in government! Some day the electorate will wake up. We certainly deserve better.

Notice how the commissioners sidetrack from the topic each and every time. The real issue is how well are the schools going to be funded for the coming year. As it is, best cast scenario, the school system is cutting another $2M to offset inflationary costs. If the state decides to cut more (very likely) and the county only funds at Maintenance of Effort, then the schools will have to find a way to cut another $7M.

Please attend those meetings that Steve Guthrie is having around the county and listen to what he says and look carefullly at his graphs and charts. They're online too, but his talk really enhances the information. It's looking very gloomy for our county schools. At this point, we may see a real decline in the quality of education.

And please go to these meetings that Howard and Shoemaker are having. The county is not lacking funds to pay for things - it's choices that are being made on our behalf.

Now is the time to really pay attention: write letters/emails, attend meetings, and make some noise.

I love as Rothschild is railing against government take over he keeps telling the Board of Education "I don't blame you". That right Richard, how could a room full of people who have spent years as professional educators possibly know as much about educational standards as you do?

Only Richard is smart enough to see the what the what the UN is doing, or what federal government is doing, or what the state is doing, or what the Board of Education is doing. The rest of us are just weak minded idiots being led to the slaughter.

We saw in Georgia this week where this kind of thinking leads. I wonder if Richard and his buddies like Gil would be so anti government if there was a white, republican in the white house? I believe George W. Bush may have passed a law or two that restricted some of our freedoms but we didn't have as many "hystorians" and constitutional "scholars" like Richard and his ilk back then.

This is just another ploy by Rothschild will use to not fully fund our schools - Reject core standards or county funds to education will be cut? He tried this last year by demanding that schools be closed. What Rothschild learned was that closing a school is far from any easy process and furthermore the public was against the closures.

Maybe Rothschild doesn't know as much as he thinks he does.

http://www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com/stop-the-common-core/
This curriculum is a nightmare!!!! You professional educators should spend some time learning about your own country...it's founding documents...the tenth amendment might be a good lesson for you....and Richard Rothschild isn't trying to defund the schools....it's citizens like me, who are sick and tired of the indoctrination vs education and are pulling our students out of these torture chambers...if the school system continues in the direction they have been going, they are nailing their own coffin...and please stop with your racist whining....people who have no intelligence stoop to those boring and typical abusive remarks....is that what you do to the children when they challenge you??? Do you call them racists too???

Jan Ober:
With this mindset about education from our county commissioners, why would anyone with a school-aged child want to move into Carroll County?

While I can't say I fully accept Common Core, if you actually read parts of it, it's got some good things going for it, and some so-so. I have actually had to look at some of it from a higher education perspective while evaluating some online courses for an organization.

Like anything else, Common Core is a mixed bag, but while we debate this and states' rights and whether the federal gov't is over-reaching its authority, what do we do with our children's education? Do we defund to prove a point? Who wins and who loses? The state and federal gov't win because they can withhold funds and give that money to someone else, and Carroll County students & the community loses because the education budget is cut so severely that classrooms take a direct hit.

We should debate it, but in the meantime, don't make our county education and students the pawns.

Both my daughters go to Carroll County schools. One is about to graduate and has been accepted into several colleges. Both have enjoyed school and done extremely well. I've really been impressed by the care and skill of the teachers. And the kindness of the students, too. It seems like a great place to go to school. Now you want to talk torture chambers, I went to Catholic school in Philadelphia in the early sixties. All the teachers were mean old women in white and black outfits. We had to sit there silently for hours on end in our little blue ties with our hands folded on our desks, learning the most boring stuff imaginable. For a 6-year-old boy who wanted to be out playing baseball, that was torture. (Actually, some of the nuns were quite nice, but it was still soooooooo boring.)

Another cowardly liberal who won't use their name....NewsJunkie, LOL! I'll let you in on a little secret....I have volunteered so much in this pathetic excuse for an education that I continued for ten years after I had no children attending....K?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/muslim-brotherhood-group-to-connect-all-u-s-schools/
you cannot say Merry Christmas in a public school but your child will soon be well versed on Islam via the Muslim Brotherhood....TORTURE CHAMBERS is too nice!!

This board clearly demonstrates why the 5 district commissioner structure (which was gerrymandered by our state delegation) was not workable, Candidates should run county wide so special interst groups can't have undue influence in a specific area, We should go to charter government with either 3 commissioners or a county executive and council. We can't afford on the job training with less than qualified candidates. Also, commissioner are elected to handle county business and should not use their position to express political viewpoints on local or national issues. They represent all the people of the county, not one particular party or viewpoint. They should express their personal opinions outside their position as commissioner, as a private citizen. Artemus Gordon

you gotta love the peaceful and tolerant left....now they take their talking points and rants from their Gods on MSNBC Ed Schultz....so sad...does Patch give suspensions for this??? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/25/ed-schultz-gets-one-week-unpaid-suspension-for-right-wing-slut-remark/

I am not Neil Ridgely. If you are famiiar with the Wild Wild West, Artemus was the "everyman" of many disguises. But I represent the rational viewpoint of the majority. I forgot to mention that I give great credit to Steve Guthrie, Ted Zaleski and all the others who have to sit there and be lectured and "educated" by people who are ill-informed. O them it can truly be said, a liitle knowledge is a dangerous thing. I'll take my knowledge of the Constitution from accredited legal authorities and law books instead of from some biblical institute on the constitution with a viewpoint that is more religious than legal.

But you are a typical liberal who loves to spew your rhetoric and are too cowardly to use your real name hence, you smell just like Brooks Emmory, Mr. chaos in Carroll county. Ask your legal authorities about this....Lololol....The founders of this great Constitutional Republic, which recognizes the MINORITY, not the majority did not fight a tyrannical King, only to replace it with another....it was the very first time in world history where men who fought and conquered tyrants created documents to take away all risk of having another....your legal experts are merely Communists.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

JoAnn... The right to remain anonymous on these blogs allows people to comment and participate who may not be able to otherwise....... lots of people get fired based on opinions posted on the internet.

I chose not to open my personal and private life up to attacks from individuals who I have no direct connection or recourse.

On the other side of the argument... people use this anonymity to post baseless attacks with little consequences.

Let's try to keep the discussion focused on the topic at hand and have a cordial debate on the issues... avoid personal attacks as we can agree to disagree or agree.

JoAnn - you're right.. i chose to ignore JoeEldersburg's posts as they are quite frankly over-the-top and ignorant.

Let's take the high road and debate without personal attacks. I disagree with your statement "s why you are losing the battle...." as we've (GOP) have been losing the battle the last 8 years. We, as republicans, need to do a better job of being the party of freedom (economic and personal), inclusion, and liberty. At this moment, the far right (including Commissioner Rothschild) is doing more damage to the future of our party than the left. We have become the party of NO... are leadership is not forward thinking and does a poor job of communicating our goals and plans for the future.

I've spent the last 6-8 years trying to fight for the cause and battle the establishment left... however... i've come to the conclusion that the far, far right of our party has hijacked the discussions and political leadership to a degree that makes the majority our party unelectable by the general populace.

I do apologize for straying from the topic of this article......

No need for apology, but sadly calling a man who is honoring his oath of office (Commissioner Rothschild) a "far right" party member who has hijacked the Republican party is exactly why the Republican party is suffering both statewide and on a federal level....this movement to honor the men and the documents left for us to secure freedom is a growing movement, and those of us who are clear on the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and The Declaration of Independence, along with the federalist and anti-federalist papers, are simply no longer going to allow the left or RINOS the right to roll right over our liberties...Rothschild is one of the few legislators who have wisely read and studied these documents and takes his oath and his promises seriously...you are entitled to your opinion, but if we were to look at how Republican candidates in the 2012 election faired who ran on the premise that Rothschild is advocating, they won almost every election by a landslide and the RINO Republicans cost the party lost seats...My hope is RINOS become extinct in my party...they have done great harm to the cause of freedom as has the left.

Demographics and political trends would seem to show the opposite. The "far right" is still a vocal minority which is growing smaller and smaller as our population diversities. Unless we become more inclusive and stop hanging our hat on moral issues that 70% of the population disagrees with or at the minimum doesn't see as critical issues.. we will continue to lose marketshare. The GOP hasn't been able to gain seats in either house or beat a exceedingly week President in a very weak economy.

It's the extreme of both parties that gets us into trouble as neither is able to compromise on anything or reach a political consensus.

By any definition Commissioner Rothschild is far right... i think he'd even agree with that assessment.

For the record, I am a member of the GOP, am fiscally conservative (very), and socially moderate. You may call me a RINO as I care to focus on issues that directly on issues that affect my families future (fiscal responsibility, taxes, economic freedom, etc). I can care less that my neighbors do in their bedrooms nor care if the gay couple down the street are married or not.

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For the record, I am a member of the GOP, am fiscally conservative (very), and socially moderate. You may call me a RINO as I care to focus on issues that directly affect my families future (fiscal responsibility, taxes, economic freedom, etc). I can care less that my neighbor's do in their bedrooms nor care if the gay couple down the street are married or not.

If you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative you are exactly like what our founders believed in (Libertarian)....if you believe specific laws need to be passed to protect specific groups you are simply the recipe that grows government and you're desire to be fiscally conservative can never be achieved....which in other words is a RINO.

@Locke-You are wasting your breath on JoAnn. She's made up her mind & the facts do not matter. Anyone who can defend Rothschild as mainstream (or sane) has a completely warped view on reality. She, like Rothschild & the rest of the We the People Tea Party crowd are content to eat their own and denounce anyone who disagrees with their extreme positions as a RINO. But look who's too weak to go out on their own and form their own party! I may not like Karl Rove either, but at least he has the sense to realize that the Tea Party is a cancer we need to get rid of, before there is nothing left of our party! Rothschild is no patriot...he is the epitome of the American Taliban. We don't negotiate with terrorists as they are incapable of reasoning like normal people.

JoeEldersburg...you wouldn't know a fact, with respect to our laws, and what this country was founded on if it walked right up to you and bit you on your gluteus Maximus....go back to your Saturday night live reruns and study Chevy Chase.

All you liberals went on and on about how you hated Karl Rove....now, he's your best friend....LOLOLOLOLOL!

Sure JoAnn, Rove's a liberal now too, eh? I'm sure folks like Rubio & Boehner are too? If they don't believe the UN is coming to get us, climate change is a myth and aren't committed to bombing abortion clinics or deporting all illegal aliens, they are just too soft and weak...just a bunch if RINO's to you.

More laws... I believe in less laws, less Gov't, lower taxes, less spending, less regulations.

The simple fact is the far right extremists are so closed minded that if you don't 100% with their agendas.... You are automatically labeled RINO's or liberal. I'm far from either.... However... There is no room for discussion, compromise or debate with a group who lives their lives with their heads stuck in the sand. Chances are high that JoAnn agree on a majority of issues..... However.....since I'm not stuck in the past.... Or 100% agree with their social agenda... There is no room for discussion. This is why we've lost the last few ejections.... This type of backward thinking scares the $#!# out of the rest of society.

That's why people call the Tea Party the American Taliban...they are just as intolerant, backward thinking, incendiary and dangerous! They'd sooner slit America's throat and throw us off a cliff (fiscal or otherwise) than compromise. Compromising is seen as a sign of weakness to them. The only way to deal with them is to get rid of them. As long as people like JoAnn think they are still "winning" minds and elections, we're probably safe. But when they realize nobody takes them seriously anymore, they will likely scatter like the wind, back under the intolerant rocks they crawled out from like the John Birch Society, Aryian Nation, KKK and other fascist/racist groups.

I think for the most part, the Tea Party folks mean well.. however... their movement has been hijacked by the more extreme part of the group. I definitely wouldn't compare them to the KKK or Aryian Nation group. They are generally good people who are doing what they think is best for the country.

The problem is they have become locked into one moral agenda in lieu of working on and tackling the larger issues. I believe political activism and volunteering is good for our process....however.... we (as a party) have failed to communicate our goals and proposals for the future. Even when I watch Fox news, which arguably has a right slant..... i see very little proposals or agenda items designed to move us forward or solve problems. We have become the party of no when we should be the party of hope, freedom and responsibility. Listen to the speeches of the great republican leaders of the past... even recent past... Reagan spoke of hope and optimism for the future....we spoke more about inclusion and freedom than any of the current leaders of the party. Whether you agree or with his policies or not.... he eloquently laid out his policies and plans for the future... our best days are ahead of us and together we will prosper.

Change is coming whether we like it or not.. our county, culture, economy and technology will continue to change at an ever increasing rate.... if we don't become more forward thinkings.. we will be left in the trash heap of history...

You've lost the debate when you use pathetic yet typical liberal charges of calling people racist and comparing them to Taliban/KKK/Aryian nation because they choose to respect the men and women who helped to create our great Republic, leaving us the key to liberty and creating documents that would ensure that those who fought tyrany and won would have less authority than those they governed.

tell me JoeEldersburg, this man Dr. Ben Carson, in his speech at the WH prayer breakfast, speaks and has lived his life under ALL the principles that Commissioner Richard Rothschild advocates....is the top pediatric neurosurgeon in the world a racisCheck out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my iPadt/Taliban/aryrian nation/KKK ?????

JoAnn... Here's the thing... The dialog and verbiage coming from a lot of the far right... Sounds eerily similar to the garbage JoeEldersburg just quoted.... Everyone needs to take a step back and have a cordial debate on the issues. The far left is just as guilty as the far right... No one is willing to compromise so nothing gets done.

I'd prefer the GOP shy away from the right's social agenda and concentrate on solving the economic and fiscals issues we have. We use (in my opinion), too much of our political capital on issues that have little effect on our future as a country. Solving our economic and fiscal issues are far more important and this is the historical strength of our party.

Before an honest debate can occur, you need to define a few things....1) define far right 2) define far left 3) define what issues you charge that are social that the far right needs to back off from and explain what your solution is to each social condition, along with the cost to the taxpayer if government involvement is part of that solution 4) If government involvement is part of your solution to social agendas, what areas of government are you willing to cut to achieve fiscal responsibility that will counter the growth in government that you advocate for social equity.

JoAnn....

There is very little that the gov't currently does well.. and very little that I'd like to see it do more of. The answer to a lot of our problems is less gov't, less gov't involvement in our lives and less gov't involvement in pretty much everything. Less spending, lower taxes, less entitlements, more personal responsibility and freedom.

Gay marriage/civil unions is one such issue that our party has hung it's hat on lately. This has 100% no affect on my family or our country's future. I respect everyone's rights and opinions on the issue as well as some of the arguments on both sides of the issue. However...... i've seen plenty of candidates and individuals black-listed from the party because of this one issue.... even if the agree with said person on 98% of their other views.

We are getting away from the topic of this article though so I apologize to the group at large. I'll love to see a formal discussion area on this page where people could engage in debate on a variety of issues. Debate and dialog (from both sides) is missing in a lot of today's political interactions. I'd guess that there is probably a bit of good on both sides of most issues.

Here's the thing, the Tea Party can't distance itself from all these horrible groups, because it in fact, welcomes them. That's what their weakness does, it makes for strange bedfellows. Look, I don't really think JoAnn is a KKK member or part of the Aryian Nation, nor do I think most Tea Partiers are either. They just fail to confront their subtle intolerance. The most intolerant piece is their Christian bigotry and why the Tea Party is the American version of the Taliban. The Taliban wants religious (Muslim) purity, the same way the Tea Party wants a Christian nation. Neither is tolerant of other religions and neither wants secular government. The Tea Party claims to channel the goals of the Founding Fathers, but they have completely missed the point. Freedom of religion in the context of the 1st amendment is really freedom FROM religion (one organized, state-wide religion) and the right to worship God (or no God). Tea Partiers claim that the use of "God" by founders necessarily means a Christian God. This is why the current Commissioners feel the need to ignore clear Constitutional and judicial prohibitions against organized Christian prayer in govt. buildings to start their meetings. They don't care if others find it offensive, because again, like all Tea Partiers they are intolerant of others religious preferences and everything else. They know better than everyone..it's also why Rothschild thinks he's an expert on planning, climate science, finance and now education,

Hahahaha....you're a lunatic....tell me, how is it you've come to these conclusions about the KKK/Tea Party/Taliban relation....you're own Democratic Senator Byrd was sportin the white hood himself....and here's a clip where the impeached intern abusing sex addict defends his actions....sell your rhetoric to your "Occupy Patch Mob" friends.....they're delusional and Most likely suffering from anosognosia...lol!

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fg3XNTMzNo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my iPad

JoAnn and JoeEldersburg.... I'm thinking your both probably a bit looney at least from your dialog above.... Can we break the name calling and discuss/debate the issues at hand???

I'm willing to accept that both the Occupy and Tea Party groups each have a small minority of members/leaders with various issues and skeletons in their closets... I'd also like to believe that the majority of each mean well and if we quit talking past each other... Something may get accomplished.

Locke, maybe you should take Dr. Carson's advice and stick your politically correct mantra where the sun doesn't shine....most awake citizens know your spew about being a conservative who wishes for fiscal responsible government while you dictate what the first amendment should entail is a boatload of crap...you're a far left liberal simply trying to infiltrate your leftist ideas into the conservative party while the lar left advances their Marxism....take your beady eyed fat boy Karl Rove who spent 400 million and got not one of his RINOS elected and crawl back in your hole....how's that for dialog???

Wow... Someone woke up on the wrong side of the broom today. You are exactly why we've lost the last few elections and why we've lost the younger generations and minorities. Take a nice look in the mirror... It's your fault.

I know Dr. Carson personally.... You are no Dr. Carson.

hahaha.....Locke knows Dr. Carson and is too cowardly to use his/her/it's name because he/she/it might lose his/her/it's job......Pleeeeeeaze.....spare me your superiority.....but I'll give you this much...you're right about one thing....I AM the reason you pathetic liberals who have infiltrated the Republican party lost......every last one of your pathetic candidates lost....even the RINO Pope is quitting....last time that happened was 1415AD....Hahahahaha...

What happened to the discussion about school funding for next year? I'm really concerned about what maintenance of effort will do to the school system. It's a poorly written law that's being manipulated by our commissioners. All our costs are rising (anyone who shops sees it first hand), and the school system, if funded at maintenance of effort by the county and less from the state, will be forced to cut more in order to deal with all the rising costs and extra mandates they are forced to deal with. I don't want to see our schools go backwards in terms of the education the children receive.

Dr. Carson is Independent for a good reason...he seeks balance...
Our country has been subjected to the public education system for a very long time... curriculum that must be approved at federal levels before funding is issued has created public apathy by design...The "dumbing down" of America has been accomplished by way of weak..or lacking public curriculum. If the public curriculum had included thorough teaching of both natural and Constitutional rights, as well as the ludicrous tax systems we would never have the degree of public apathy that currently exists....This apathy has been bred by too many years of extreme difference being played out through politics... The divide is just too damn vast and has brought our Country to it's current broken condition. The vast majority of American citizens are apathetic, under educated sheeple that have been taught somehow that the government has the answers, and will provide for their every need when times get tough....this is the mold of society that must be broken...
There is nothing that I would like to see more at this point than Dr. Ben Carson getting involved at the highest levels of government.

The world we live in (as opposed to the small world of the founding fathers) uses technology which is shrinking distance and compressing time. We live much more globally. We travel to distant places as a matter of routine, we see them live on TV and the net. The value of the work we do and the things we produce depends on how valuable it is not to our immediate neighbors but to the country as a whole and more and more to the whole world. The items we buy and use come from all over the world we can't isolate ourselves from the world let alone the country as whole and expect to be successful. As globalization continues and as we compete more and more on the world stage we must stop thinking of ourselves as primarily citizens of certain county or state but as citizens of a nation that needs to compete on the world stage. Having core educational standards for all students all over the country helps prepare students to work and communicate better with students from across the nation. Our work force is national. How many of our students would benefit from being perfectly prepared to live and work in only Carroll County as opposed to being prepared to live and work anywhere in this country?

@JoAnn-Sorry to admit, like Locke...I've been a registered "R" since I moved to Carroll, but definitely a RINO by your definition, as I heartily supported the "golden" age of Carroll under Gouge, Minnich & Jones, which became a little less golden in 2006-2010 when the financial decision making got off-track and they voted unanimously to build MVHS & a stupid incinerator among other questionable decisions. At least we had open govt. and no political posturing on national issues, which have little or no bearing on Carroll. Yes, we still had the do-nothing delegation under Haines, which hasn't changed much since he left, except to get even more universally ultra-conservative. Difference is, back then we invested in schools and the quality of life then (to a fault, perhaps) we didn't try to undermine everything and everyone who doesn't agree with your heroes Rothschild and Prayzier. We had a AAA credit rating then and we were fiscally conservative, but our Commissioners weren't Tea Party fanatics...I never thought I would say this, but even Mike Zimmer, who never deserved to be elected, seemed more more reasonable than this lot. Mark my words, we will not be able to move forward, while we have people like Rothschild and Prayzier as Commissioners. They have theories and believe ridiculous things about public schools, so they will use that to justify more cuts. Very sad. I just hope people get mad and finally tell them publicly that they've had enough of their silliness.

School's Open - Arm Your Children!

Reflections... after watching another Impeachable Press Conference
“...thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch" - Leviticus 18:21
Children who never go to government schools will never be shot in government schools.
If you properly arm the hearts and minds of your own children they will probably never darken the door of a government-controlled K-12 minimum security facility. If you can't or won't teach them how dangerous it is to sacrifice their lives to the State you are probably an unfit parent. At the least you are naïve or ignorant about this Monster called “the State.” If you think the benefits outweigh the risks you may be delusional....Bill Huff..

Are you teachable?
Historically huge masses of people have been lead astray by their rulers. Check the record. The most hideous recent examples have been preceded by massive efforts to “educate” their future victims.
Your children in government-controlled schools are Targets of Opportunity to the System.
If you don't already know it, I predict that one day you will realize schools can be far more dangerous than guns. The real data are in. Apply some common sense to the data and get your kids out now.
After the recent shootings and watching the response of those who would, in violation of their oaths to the Constitution, disarm the innocent, I would hope you are alarmed enough to take your own children to a safer place where they cannot be brainwashed, shot, or otherwise abused. If I could frighten you enough to make you move on this I would. ..Bill Huff..

My wife and I [she did most of the heavy lifting] homeschooled our three sons with very little money, and at a time when the neighbors' kids told my kids we were all going to jail for it. At that time I never thought they would be shot at a public school. But I did know how dangerous the government school was, even then, especially in terms of spiritual and academic consequences. I had taught in a government school for a few years. And we were being exposed to excellent information from some of the pioneers of the modern home schooling movement. Most of the predictions of these early heroes have come to pass. And more recently John Taylor Gatto and others have piled on more overwhelming evidence. It's not just that we are paranoid. They really are out to get us.
How safe are the schools even if you could eliminate the threat of shootings altogether?

The State allegedly protects children against unprotected sex in government-controlled brainwashing mills called public schools. Of course that leads to more unprotected experimentation on the part of a few naturally curious kids. The ones who may still be a little reluctant can be encouraged by the availability of free condoms and morning after pills. Don't you just love the Ad Council* and other government panderers' constant babble about talking to your kids about sex? Or drugs? Or, perhaps the new favorite: “Bullying!?” The schools are now full of people who feel compelled to talk to other people's children about sex and drugs – or even their own notions of theology or witchcraft. If that were not bad enough they tacitly or not so tacitly teach them to Worship the State - and all with airs of moral superiority? How could mere mortals know what's best for their own children?
The fact that they are academically inferior is openly admitted by almost everyone. That they are morally and spiritually bankrupt is not much harder to discover.
Bill Huff

How shall the State lecture us about Bullying when all of its plans are bound up in theft and coercion, and, potentially, brutality, or even Genocide? Do they also lecture the Afghanis and the Iraqis? The Chinese? The Russians? Native Americans?
It really is about the children, the children who are once again pawns in the old game of increasing the power of the State. It's about who owns the children and who can dispose of them - once it uses them as it pleases. They are holding most of your children for ransom on so many levels. And you are not, for the most part, “getting it.” Are you?
What can be worse than a false sense of security? How about a false belief that your children are in a safe place?
Bill Huff

Do you think Dianne Feinstein cares about your children or mine as much as she covets power and the aggrandizement of the State? Her almost perfect left-wing liberal record is tarnished by the fact that she previously possessed a concealed carry permit. She had once offered to take her potential attackers with her if necessary. I think that level of street smarts is rare among Senators. But Senators seem to have an uncanny ability to switch positions on almost anything. Dianne is no exception. The State must be served. The State knows best.
Did the American family first break down requiring State intervention – or was the entire compulsory plan formulated to empower the State?

Will the State succeed in its attempts to torture logic out of your children?
Not if they don't show up for class.
Bill Huff

Civilization, in fact, grows more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. Wars are no longer waged by the will of superior men, capable of judging dispassionately and intelligently the causes behind them and the effects flowing out of them. They are now begun by first throwing a mob into a panic; they are ended only when it has spent its ferine fury. - H.L. Mencken

How much would your kids suffer if you rescued them from government-controlled schools?
There was a time before compulsory attendance laws; a time before the State decided to turn the tables on Liberty, a time before so much power had been drawn toward Washington, toward a powerful central government. And in those idyllic days a student might bring a gun or two to school for show and tell without raising an alarm or even an eyebrow.
Now we have Drug Free School Zones by edict. How is that working for you? Ritelin is still the drug of choice for fixing all the little boys who would act more like boys than little girls. Militant feminism is apparently the drug to make little girls act more like little boys.

We are already tolerating child abuse in those same school buildings, day in, day out, for decades. The pedophilia comes and goes but the abuse is fully integrated into the curriculum. The great majority of American children have been subjected for decades to a form of child abuse in schools designed to produce obedient drones for the State. See Mary Pride's book: “The Child Abuse Industry.”
Bill Huff

If the government controlled schools are so good, why can't the kids just be allowed walk out? Compulsory attendance laws are abusive and tyrannical. Why call it free education when it really is indoctrination and brainwashing?

A free market approach with truth in advertising would be a start: Schools that are voluntarily protected by armed guards can be labeled with warning signs. And the schools that don't want that level of protection can choose their own labels. Give the criminals a way to choose their own working environment. They do anyway. Government Criminals also want to choose their working environment. They don't want tyranny to become hazardous to their health. As long as they have a bigger clip perhaps they can feel safe? How many federal dollars have been spent to militarize police departments all across this once free country? What does that bode?
Bill Huff

Are we supposed to believe the rising tide of abuse by government and law enforcement will subside if they are granted the outrageous right to disarm any or all of the innocent, the law-abiding? They flatly refuse to accept any liability for harm done by criminals as we patiently wait for the police.
How can you arm your own children?

If public education were forreal forreal don't you think they would spend some time criticizing the State, teaching about Individual Liberty and Individual Sovereignty? Keyensian versus Misean Economics? Lawful money? Banking monopolies? Genocide? Democide? No, not at all. They serve up Socialist Studies and laugh at any other option. Why not teach them about the Venality of the State? Obviously home education is the only venue where this will fly while a Totalitarian State is in its ascension.
Bill Huff

The State cannot afford to leave you alone.
They have assumed a right to your kids, your money, and, with national healthcare, your life, and an alleged monopoly to “interpret” the laws and constitutions written by your ancestors to limit their authority. You give them limited powers and they assume unlimited powers.
The government can get much worse. Which way do you think they're headed?
Bill Huff

This fear is due to the ever-present, never-changing weaknesses of human nature in government which are conducive to "love of power and proneness to abuse it," as Washington's Farewell Address warned. This means public officials' human weaknesses, especially as aggravated by the corresponding weaknesses among the self-governing people themselves. It is a truism that government's power needs only to exist to be feared--to be dominant, over the fear-ridden, without ever needing to be exercised aggressively. - Hamilton A. Long

Notwithstanding any of my rant above, why would you send your own dear children to a government-controlled institution if there were any other option? Why send them to a place where they are already a target for all sorts of other very bad things? Will you paint targets on their foreheads? Will you paint targets on their souls? Their minds and their souls are already in extreme jeopardy. Still don't believe me? Go to http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ Charlotte Iserbyt will take you to school.
Bill huff

STOP!
Please don't waste this opportunity to consider rescuing your own kids from the government's clutches. Get your head into all of the superior alternatives. Visit: NHERI.org the National Home Education Research Institute, RobinsonCurriculum.com, HSLDA.org Google Home Schooling. Be relentless in your quest to save and protect your own children. What do you possess that is more valuable than your children?
If enough Americans act swiftly now to remove their own children from harm[government]'s way we can witness a massive leap forward, not only in terms of overall safety, but also in increased quality of education and expansion of Human Liberty, Prosperity and Peace.
Your children must not Live or Die for the State.
Bill Huff

Don't go to their schools! and Don't go to their Wars!
If you are worried about the children of the President, the Congress, the Supreme Courtiers, don’t be. They will be just fine. The Seed of the Elite will continue to live in armed and armored camps more and more as they continue their efforts to disarm the public they have sworn to protect and defend.
JUST SAY NO!
I cannot think of a more powerful statement on this issue than to remove your children from the constant influence of what have become the Reproductive Organs of the State – compulsory government-controlled schools.
Can you?
Would you rather pay for the exceptional expenses of home education with academic excellence or the exceptional expenses of an untimely funeral?

JoeEldersburg and Locke are conservative like a chicken has lips...their Occupy patch mob budy says a big tent revival "amen" to Lockes comments and has also advocated to completely ban the second amendment....only a pathetic fool would buy into this crap...you are simply trying to sway the sheep into the wolves den....

Hi JoAnn Nicholls,

jeffrey fiske also commented on Commissioner Rothschild Concerned State Standards will Turn Schools into 'Propaganda Institutes for Government'.
"amen"
jeffrey fiske
9:00 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
the 2nd amendment is one of the most out dated parts of the constitution in dire need of being rewritten or better yet repeal.

• At the time it was written guns were single shot weapons used mostly for hunting and too expensive to be provided by the gov't should the need for an army arise (no standing army in peace then) so the solution was to have people purchase their own weapons in advance.
• Repeal wouldn't make guns illegal by default but simply subject them to sensible regulation like any other dangerous technology ie: cars, airplanes, or highly toxic chemicals.
• Finally the argument that they are necessary to defend ourselves from the elected government is not only would not work as the government is vastly better equipped but is undesirable as means of changing either the government or public policy (see branch davidian tragedy).

BTW Buck Harmon...I agree with you on the schools...they are beyond dangerous and IMO are abusive to children and their right to be free and think critically. You were smart to homeschool.

Buck, what are you smoking? Bill Huff? Who cares what he says? Not one piece of it differs from any of the paranoid ranting of nuts like Rothschild...this is someone you respect? I'm conservative, have kids in the public schools and also in private school and I've never felt even close this way. Crazy stuff like this is just provides a ruse to gut funding of the schools. We are so far behind in Carroll already and barely hanging on thanks only to the benevolence of volunteer parents, good administrators, teachers and students. We can't absorb more cuts and all this stuff about guns and govt. brainwashing is just an unproductive distraction from the real problem...short-sighted ultra-conservative local politicians, who would sell out our kids for another 2 cent tax cut, so they can score points with other ultra-conservative supporters whose view of reality is completely warped or who have no stake in the outcome. Wake up parents, it's time to tell these idiot Commissioners that we've had enough of their conservative political rhetoric!...Our public schools need protection from the nuts in Carroll and they happen to be running this county!

BRAVO Buck Harmon!!

Dear Commissioner Rothschild. When you have the likes of JoAnn Nickles and Buck Harman advocating your point of view, you are probably an extremist. Just FYI.

Richard Rothschild most likely pays little attention to comments that are given from cowards who call themselves, "FRIEDHARD".....LOL!

"Lockes comments and has also advocated to completely ban the second amendment....only a pathetic fool would buy into this crap...you are simply trying to sway the sheep into the wolves den"
What are you talking about? I have never even commented on the 2nd amendment or gun control... are you making this up? I'm an avid hunter and sport shooter and fully support the right to bear arms. I'm going to avoid your bar style name calling and personal attacks. I'll simply stick to the facts and an open dialog... i urge everyone to do the same... we may learn something..
JoeEldersburg's comments about the public schools are right on.... Our experience in CC schools have been mostly positive. My (4) kids are thriving in the system and the teachers are amazing. The parent volunteers go above and beyond and are part of the life-blood of the system.
Homeschooling is fine and we have a lot of friends who home school their children. Not everyone has the resources or skills to adequately home school their children, it doesn't work for everyone. Public schools have their issues, though as long as the parents are extremely active and teach (and demonstrate) the appropriate values at home... we've been pleased with the results.
Buck Harmon - wow... I’ll spend some time reading through your links when I have a bit more time... however.....it must be tough living in a world where you are scared of everything. You can't isolate your children from society and the outside world.

Mr Fiske.....the founders came from, fought and won the world empire with very little in every aspect....they actually were the first leaders of a country to write a document which would disempower the government and empower the people.....the power the founders had was not due to gobs of money or people, it was an idea....we are not a democracy....we are a constitutional republic.....the majority does not rule....you are a great example of the history lessons of a public school.

Once again, JoAnn, you have usurped the truth to make some nonsensical point and shown your ignorance of American history. There was no disempowerment in the Constitution, there was an explicit acknowledgement of the balance between federal & state power. In fact, many powers were granted to both the federal and state governments. Our Founding Fathers were not anti-government as you have implied, in fact quite the opposite. In declaring our independence from the crown, we were in fact saying we could govern ourselves and didn't need a King calling the shots anymore. We didn't need the oppression of a king, his taxes or his church, but to imply we did this on our own is quite circumspect. Without France's help, we never would have won the Revolutionary War. I realize that you think the Constitution and even your precious 2nd amendment was something divinely inspired, but alas you are wrong again, as the Bill of Rights was essentially copied word for word from the English Bill of Rights 100 years earlier in 1689! With your penchant for foreign conspiracy theories like Agenda 21, surely this means that our Constitution and Bill of Rights was an English conspiracy to infiltrate the minds of our Founding Fathers...Get a grip!

Gentleman, ladies and Buck...... as much as I would love to debate issues and facts on this blog.. it's clear that a few posters simply use this blog as a way to post insults, personal attacks and little of much else. I've partaken is some of this negativity as well as I've let my emotions get out in front a bit and for that I apologize.. JoeEldersburg, JoAnn, and Uncle Buck.... i "think" you all mean well but we probably all need to step back throw less stones at your fellow residents.

I was hoping to engage in a bit of actual debate and dialog with other local residents to perhaps learn about other points of view. I've learned a bit about human nature but little of much else in this dialog. I'm officially signing off.. thanks again.. and be well.

Throwing off the British monarchy on July 4, 1776, left the United States with no central government. It had to design and install a new government–and quickly. As early as May 1776, Congress advised each of the colonies to draw up plans for state governments; by 1780, all thirteen states had adopted written constitutions. In June 1776, the Continental Congress began to work on a plan for a central government. It took five years for it to be approved, first by members of Congress and then by the states. The first attempt at a constitution for the United States was called the Articles of Confederation.

This first constitution was composed by a body that directed most of its attention to fighting and winning the War for Independence. It came into being at a time when Americans had a deep-seated fear of a central authority and long-standing loyalty to the state in which they lived and often called their "country." Ultimately, the Articles of Confederation proved unwieldy and inadequate to resolve the issues that faced the United States in its earliest years; but in granting any Federal powers to a central authority–the Confederation Congress–this document marked a crucial step toward nationhood. The Articles of Confederation were in force from March 1, 1781, until March 4, 1789, when the present Constitution went into effect.

Impressive JoAnn...you learned how to cut & paste! Did you also read the part about after all the work of throwing off the oppressive king and winning our independence, this same group of Founding Fathers wanted to name George Washington Emperor? King, Emperor, what's the difference? Thankfully Washington said no! So much for all the hallowed talk of liberty & freedom...and do you know why they couldn't agree to a constitution that incorporated the Bill of Rights rather than making them amendments? Please educate us with more of your US history 101 cut & paste.

Eleven years after the Declaration of Independence announced the birth of the United States, the survival of the young country seemed in doubt. The War for Independence had been won, but economic depression, social unrest, interstate rivalries, and foreign intrigue appeared to be unraveling the fragile confederation. In early 1787, Congress called for a special convention of all the states to revise the Articles of Confederation. On September 17, 1787, after four months of secret meetings, the delegates to the Constitutional Convention emerged from their Philadelphia meetingroom with an entirely new plan of government–the U.S. Constitution–that they hoped would ensure the survival of the experiment they had launched in 1776.

They proposed a strong central government made up of three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial; each would be perpetually restrained by a sophisticated set of checks and balances. They reached compromises on the issue of slavery that left its final resolution to future generations. As for ratification, they devised a procedure that maximized the odds: the Constitution would be enacted when it was ratified by nine, not thirteen, states. The Framers knew they had not created a perfect plan, but it could be revised. The Constitution has been amended twenty-seven times and stands today as the longest-lasting written constitution in the world.

On September 17, 1787, two days after the final vote, the delegates signed the engrossed parchment.

JoeEldersburg, the nazi, would like you to believe that this entire Agenda 21 mantra, is some right wing conspiracy....well, perhaps you should read it and decide for yourself....JoeEldersburg is melting down because he IS a communist....his very well carried out plan of his comrades is beginning to crumble...resistance is growing, and there are EVEN websites dedicated to Democrats who are opposed to Agenda 21....our Commissioner Rothschild was the first man in a political position to stand up to this and break ties with ICLEI....no wonder JoeEldersburg has such hate in his heart for the man who represents all the things he abhors...LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.
http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

Joe Eldersburg says he is a conservative....but he is to the left of these democrats....a very confused and pathetic phony he is....
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

Maybe the elitist scholar JoeEldersburg can point me to the amendment in the Constitution which shows any authority for the UN to tell this country what it must do with respect to ones private property.....

http://freedom.org/reports/unesco356.htm

here lies the start of Common Core...I especially like the sentence under the heading, THE PROBLEM OF TEXTBOOKS...."The child has been led to conclude that perfidy and oppression are always and solely the characteristics of the enemy." THAT IS A PROBLEM ACCORDING TO COMMON CORE!!!!

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkgGxt7A4sM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my iPad
Whoops JoeEldersburg....here's a 60/70's feminist, pro abortion, pro gay marriage, big time liberal who is to the right of YOU Mr. GOP.....

Some interesting facts you may want to consider as you move forward in your decision on our public school system..
1) When enrollment increased, education spending increased. Now that enrollments are down, total education spending including pensions is still increasing...the BoE has a surplus of 11 million...do you think they need or deserve more funding considering these facts?
2) This past year (2012), enrollment dropped by 400 students....that is the capacity of one elementary school....there has been no study done as was admitted by Doug Howard at his first "The Future of Carroll County" meetings as to where the reduction of student enrollment is being attributed to...is it families leaving Carroll/Maryland?...is it families pulling these students out and sending them to private schools?....is it families where one parent is no longer employed and has decided to homeschool?.....without these studies, it seems impossible for the BoE to know where they need to improve or move forward..
3) Doug Howard says we should not close any schools...yet several schools are at "end of life" and are scheduled to be knocked down. Does it make sense to keep all schools open and structurally maintained and staffed when we know we will in the near future tear these schools down? With two of our high schools being half empty, wouldn't it make better sense to condense these schools and speed up the process of knocking down at least one of these end of life schools now?

another point I'd like to make....Public school advocates state that Carroll County Public Schools are top rated and we need to maintain that status to attract families and businesses to our county....it is true we are top rated, but what is that compared to? With over half our graduating students entering community college needing remedial reading, writing or math, is this excellence??? Shouldn't competition be part of this discussion? Is it not the truth that a competitive environment breeds efficiency and excellence naturally?

http://www.unschoolingnyc.com/2013/02/11/it-is-the-system-not-the-child-that-is-broken/
Unfortunately for the Marxist, the "system" is being exposed EVERYWHERE!!!!

funny, I heard very little of this sentiment from the group who called themselves "professional educators" and who attended the first "The Future of Carroll County" held by Doug Howard and Haven Shoemaker outside of their districts....I came to learn that the other three Commissioners were made aware of these meetings at the same time I received the email....why weren't Commissioners Roush, Frazier and Rothschild invited to participate?? I should think that the future of our county would be better served to hear the thoughts and offer discussion from ALL of our Commissioners. I'm quite sure teachers as the one posting in this blog were not present at these meetings....
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/teacher_of_the_year/2010/01/teachers_should_be_seen_and_no.html

From what I've been told (and witnessed last night)... All 5 were invited to participate. It would have been more productive had all 5 attended last night as it would have been good to hear all sides. There was a very large group in attendance last night.

Commissioner Howard was very clear that everyone was invited though not everyone had time on their schedules, was able or wanted to attend. I understand some of the other Commissioners had attended previous sessions but not last night.

Not true....these meetings were arranged without the knowledge of the other three Commissioners....Howard and Shoemaker did not say they could not attend, nor did they say they could not make a statement or presentation, but clearly these meetings were arranged behind the backs of the other three Commissioners...I find it extremely troubling that two Commissioners would arrange meetings called "Keep Carroll
Strong", and the topics were 1) roads and infrastructure 2) public safety 3) budget 4) education.....and there were NO fireman....NO law enforcement officers....NO road crews but the place was packed with teachers and union reps...Additionally, I find it troubling that two Commissioners would take it upon themselves to arrange meetings outside of their district packed with teachers at a time that a few of our Commissioners are speaking out about school enrollment being drastically down while the BoE wants more funds and a few of our Commissioners are advocating vouchers for citizens to have choice....This appeared more political in nature, pandering to the public school union, than it did a meeting
based on a true desire to reach out to citizens in the manner in which it was pitched.

well.. i've gotten emails and announcements for these meetings for at least two weeks prior to last night’s meeting….. I'm assuming there were on the commissioner’s calendars..... I can't say what the individual commissions may or may not have received or heard as I'm not them. I’ve been told that some of the other commissioners attended at least a couple of the other meetings.. but again.. I was not at those meetings so cannot confirm one way or the other. Did you attend??

I attended last night and I ran into at least 10-15 other parents I know from various activities (sports, etc). These parents where not teachers or union thugs…. I am sure there were plenty of teachers in attendance as well but the majority of discussion and comments I heard where from concerned parents.

All of the people I ran into would have preferred that all the commissioners had been in attendance so you do have a valid point. It’s unfortunate The Board’s Open Sessions are during the day as the majority of people have work and cannot get away. I’d love to attend Thursday’s 10:00 AM FY14 budget session but work precludes it.

As for the current drop in enrollment.. it was discussed. The forecasts I’ve seen also call for an increase in enrollment starting 5 years out. I’m skeptical of all forecasts but do think, at least in South Carroll.. That enrollment will grow with current and future developments. My kid’s elementary school still has trailers so we haven’t seen the empty classrooms yet. It would be extremely foolish to close a school know only to have to build a new one 10 years out. Construction and design costs will only continue to escalate.

I attended the first meeting in my district. There were only a few parents...and they were parents who don't appear to vote conservative...it was packed with teachers....reminded me of a tent revival.

So, after losing 1000 students since 2010, Doug Howard and Haven Shoemaker feel we will not only gain those lost students back, to bring us up to 2010 levels, but surpass those levels and fill the half empty schools in five years...is that what you're saying????

that's not what I'm saying.. i'm only saying the forecasts that enrollments are going to increase. I think they said last night that we've lost 500-700 since 2010 county wide but I haven't seen those direct numbers. They are probably online somewhere…

the projections i've seen (for south carroll) is to increase past 2010 levels by 2020-2030. have you seen the number of homes/developments being planned in the area in the near future (2-3 years)?

once/if/when 32 goes to 4 lanes.... development will go far beyond the current forecasts. With brac and the lack of build-able sites in Howard County…. Additional development is coming our way if we like it or not. Widening 32 is one of Carroll County’s highest transportation priorities and also that at the State level. I don’t have a lot of information on North Carroll so it’s possible South Carroll’s increase will be offset by a decrease in North Carroll but I’d be surprised.

Spending today in hopes of "forecasts" is foolishness, and is exactly what is being done at the state and federal level hence the reason for increased taxes and tolls. It is not what these two Commissioners promised when they ran...many citizens are not as hopeful about the rapid growth your Commissioner has obviously promised you in housing....planned projects do not equate to sold houses...big difference...and at some point in time, quantitative easing must stop and interest rates must rise which will further the pressure on selling homes.

Buck, someone did mention Manchester Valley to Commissioner Shoemaker who said there was no indication that the economy would collapse soon after the opening. I guess, just like these forecasts, he figured we would have 15% equities per year on housing forever and it would never bust...I started telling folks in 2006 that we were going to have a crash of unusual size and possibly a depression.

With the amount of construction activity at Fort Meade and contractors/families being relocated to the area via brac... some growth is inevitable. a lot of the defense contractors are consolidating into existing military centers/areas. our area is and will be one of the few (defense related) areas to see growth nationwide as the defense and intelligence agencies go through a period of reduction/consolidation. I don't know where you guys live, but in my neighborhood.....there are lots of professionals who make the trek into Fort Meade and related areas.... we are seeing brac overflow.

It may not always be wise to overbuild based on future projections.... although it is also unwise not to take these projections into account as it is almost impossible to catch up with infrastructure, schools, community amenities once the growth has occurred. I'd like to see more funds put into our transportation systems as well though we need to be efficient with our scarce funding.

If an economic justification exists to close a school....let's see the numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the BOE and the State make the decisions when and where schools are closed (and opened)? Does the BOC have a say in the matter? They do seem to control some of the funding but I didn't think they had a real say in how the money is spent. Correct?

Yes Locke, technically it's the State's ultimate decision whether to close a school, but effectively the budget decisions for county schools reside with the county Commissioners, so it's like a constructive foreclosure...if you don't get enough money to keep the lights on, you have to make a decision to close something or you won't be able to pay the teachers or afford something else.

I got news for you....that school would've never broke ground if Rothschild and Frazier were Board members....you spend three quarters of your rant on how stupid it was to build that school and then end it with a derogatory remark about the Commissioners who are now dealing with that stupidity...BTW, where did the BOE lie with that decision? You're quick to jump in there and state that it is only they who can close a school...who makes the ultimate decision to build one? And as far as your ridiculous statement that these two Commissioners don't care about children....saddling the children with debt that they will ultimately pay for this little spending addiction is one of the most cruel and insidious acts you can ever do to the youth. You might ask Steve Guthrie about those bonuses he says he needs to give in this next budget....seems to me a bonus doesn't keep the lights on.

I got news for you...Rothschild and Frazier are the most nutty, right-wing people ever elected to office in Carroll County. I have nothing but deragotory remarks for them, because they are completely off their rockers. Yes, the BOE supported the decision to build MVHS and the past board of Commissioners should have said "no", especially when Ted Zaleski, their budget director warned them not to do this without state funding, but we can't put the genie back in the bottle and unbuild the school. Most certainly we should be considering closing N. Carroll and putting all the kids in MVHS, but Commissioners have no place bullying the BOE or Steve Guthrie or starting vile rumors of closing Liberty HS, in Eldersburg.

JoAnn, I came across an interesting video link I thought I'd share with you, since you seem to be cut and pasting from your pal Rothschild's writing anyway. Rothschild, you and your WTP friends are convinced that the UN is invading us through ICELEI and professional planning and that "sustainability" is a dirty word...As such, you may find the attached link interesting, but I'll warn you that this guy is another REPUBLICAN, but he seems to be talking directly to you and the rest of the nuts (Tin Foil Hat Brigade) who believe the conspiracy crap about Agenda 21. Sorry that the truth conflicts with your conspiracy theories of responsible planning and sustainability being part of a communist/muslim plot to take away our property rights and make us all live in communes! Rothschild's support of "property rights" is almost as crazy as his comment about the schools becoming institutions of propaganda. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/07/gop-ditch-the-agenda-21-tinfoil-hat-brigade.html
Parents, we need someone to save us from Rothschild & Frazier!

JoeEldersburg....we need someone to save us from nazis like you.....since Richard Rothschild has bravely stood up to Agenda 21 by being the first county in the US to break ties with ICLEI, HUNDREDS of counties across the US have followed suit...many states have Introduced bills to nullify agenda 21....some of them, not so Republican....
http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/02/oklahoma-introduces-bill-nullifying-un-agenda-21/

http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/02/indiana-senate-bill-would-nullify-agenda-21-2483486.html

Why, just a few days ago hoards of Democrats that are to the right of the self proclaimed Republican, JoeEldersburg, gathered in defiance of this insidious plan....I know you're struggling JoeEldersburg....you probably have Neil Ridgeley over for dinner and the two of you have Rothschild and Frazier dolls that you "get off" sticking pins in...LOL!!! get a freakin life you Invertebrate..

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981848226

Oh, and JoeEldersburg....typically we true conservatives give little weight to some RINO in New York who swears up and down they are Republicans, like you, and then take away your 20oz big gulp like Bloomberg...LOL...now he's going after styrofoam...you can always go up yonder where the Republicans to your liking...JoeJoe...you'd finally be happy!

You mean in the north, they are less likely to eat their young? Notice you said "introduced" bills...not passed laws...there's no medicine known that cures stupid. We have plenty of rural counties right here in Maryland with nuts running them like in Carroll & Frederick (that Tea Party dolt, Blaine Young come to mind), who believe similar drivel about insidious plans by the UN to overthrow the US. Paranoid conspiracy theories about the govt. arent new, nor are they reserved for planning. Why just this morning I read the NRA's Wayne Lapierrre's racist laden op ed rant that the US is ready to fall into anarchy and that we need to all arm ourselves to the teeth before the Latin American gangs make it unsafe to walk the streets...REALLY now! But that's just the kind of thing you and the rest of the We the People crowd believes...the sky is falling and everyone is out to get us...get a grip! The enemy is irrational people, who have lost the ability to discern fact from fiction. Sadly, they exist in both parties, but seemingly in greater numbers with the extremes like the Tea Party.

Does Rothschild have an alternate sustainability plan in the works that would truely allow them to lead by example..?.. or have they just been active resistors..?

Hahahahaha...and YOU are the reasonable thinking mind....You wouldn't be spewing all your hate right now if the folks who fought for your right sat back and let people like you roll right over top of them...funny how you paint the Tea Party as violent, when many of these mass shootings, like the cop in LA were done by lefties....me thinks you need to clean up your own house before you make such threatening remarks at a group of people who have shown no violence but a determined willingness to advocate for constitutional governing that every public servant swears to uphold....you JoeEldersburg seem rather frightening to me....you seem to have a constant dialogue of violence...I assume it should blow another one of your head gaskets to know that Donald Trump is now funding a PAC to get more and more Rothschilds and Fraziers elected....hahahahahaha

Joe, Locke, Buck,
A word of advice: Stop feeding the troll. This ignorant, rude, obnoxious woman clearly has nothing better to do with her time. Your wasting your time if you think you can reason with someone of her ilk.

learn to spell newsjunkie....I'll correct your grammar just like the lefties do to us...YOU'RE wasting your time....but you are wasting your time.....I'm dug in for the long hall and I have many, many "ilk" along side me...Buck, I'm not clear on what you mean by an "alternative sustainability plan"?? I believe the big argument is over the state stripping away the planning at the local level. more than half the counties have not complied with the tier map requirement just as many states have not complied with setting up health care exchanges for ObamaCare.

BTW, you liberals seem extremely violent in your language skills....you, newsjunkie, seem unglued....possibly a straw short of a haystack....maybe a quart or two low....

This right here is why the Republican Party is all but dead in Maryland. It's become a huge nutcase and Troglodyte magnet.

Last time I checked Steve, I found no Democrats elected in the county delegation.....are you on drugs or in need of them????

You know, all this violent talk coming from people who use fake names and blog on an article about schools, say that they cannot use their name or they will be fired, leads me to believe we may have a host of teachers here....are you beginning to see why we have so many problems with our public education system????I wouldn't want these people teaching my dog for goodness sake.

Reading to many of the comments to the main article, I see much distrust in the governing body of Carroll County and Commissioner form of Government. It seems that there is little cooperation among the commissioners in their setting up meetings, discussing any of the problems that face the communities in Carroll County, or governing as a whole. The radicals terms that each toss at each other only go to show that there is a strong dislike and lack of real listening to each other. It is true that some of the views are extreme. Today we have states in several areas who are taking voting rights away and also passing laws which are in total contrast to federal law.We need two party rule and people who are willing to listen, talk and make common sense decisions.Our county government is made up five commissioners who evidently don't like one another, don't talk to each other, won't work together, and finally effective government is lost. Not naming names here, but we do have a couple Commissioners who if allowed to would circumvent rules and regulation and law to reach a hidden agenda. Maybe that is why they did not show up at the meeting referred to in this article with the excuse, "they could not fit it into their calendar". They forget that they were voted into office to serve Carroll County, not themselves and their "Private" initiatives. Come next election they should be voted out and get more down to earth people, not ones who feel they are better than their constituents.

Two Commissioners WILL be voted out....Tweedle Dee Howard and Tweedle Dum Shoemaker. They flipped on most every promise they made that got them elected. Rothschild is being nice about these schools....they are torture chambers!!Perhaps Mr. Crandall you could explain why the founders put in place the ninth and tenth amendment and why they formed a Constitutional Republic vs a Democracy IF in fact Federal law rules everyone???? And maybe you could explain the SCOTUS ruling on Printz vs US 521 U.S. 898 (1997) if your assertion is federal law trumps state law???? You must know something they don't know!!!!