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Palin Endorses Bongino for Senate

The former Alaska governor releases a written statement in support of Dan Bongino's bid against incumbent Sen. Ben Cardin.

 

Dan Bongino, the Republican candidate for Senate from Severna Park, got some support from Alaska on Monday when former Gov. Sarah Palin endorsed him.

"Though political pundits often dismiss conservative candidates running in deep blue states, I don't believe in ignoring good candidates simply because they're fighting uphill battles against the odds," Palin said in a press release. "In fact, I find such candidates incredibly brave and especially worthy of encouragement."

The odds of Bongino defeating incumbent Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) this November are slim. Real Clear Politics and Roll Call both mark Maryland's Senate race in their safely Democratic columns, and Cardin has outraised the former secret service agent by more than 10 to one when it comes to contributions, according to Open Secrets.

Patch reported in July that Bongino is hoping an aggressive social media campaign will help him take on the Cardin machine.

Palin said, "We also owe it to voters in every state—even the deep blue ones—to support good candidates for office so that they have a genuine choice in November. That is why I'm honored to announce my support for Dan Bongino in his Senate race in the 'deep blue state' of Maryland."

In fact, Maryland has not sent a Republican to the U.S. Senate in 25 years.

Bongino said in a press release that he sought the support of the former vice presidential candidate and is honored to receive it.

"I am a political outsider, and I have constructed my campaign around the idea that public office is a sacred trust placed in our elected officials by the citizenry," Bongino said. "That sacred trust has been broken, and I am making an ironclad promise to the citizens of Maryland to restore it."

Now, the question is: Will Palin make an appearance in Maryland before the election?

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Related Topics: 2012 Election Maryland, 2012 elections, Maryland Senate Race, Sarah Palin, U.S. Senate Race, ben cardin, and dan bongino

bill bissenas

2:03 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I love Gov. Palin but Bongino is going to lose regardless. Until the GOP can get at least 30 percent of the African American electorate, the Repubs don't stand a chance in statewide offices.

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Mark

3:01 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Ugh - Gov Palin should not be addressed as Gov. She abandoned her position as Governor before her time was up. She should be addressed Ms. Palin. Only full term Governors should be addressed Governor or Ex Governor.

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James House

3:27 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Bill, two issues have changed the Voter registration ratios in this state. Independants combined with Republicans now outnumber Democrats, though the Independants mostly admit changing their registration to avoid Robo Calls. Secondly, with the closing of the Jessup Correctional facilities a number of Democrat voters are no longer in the State and they have not voted by absentee ballot the way they did while they were incarcerated in Jessup. The Democratic leadership remains the same as well as their lobbyists.

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bill bissenas

7:39 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

James - here's the 2010 election break down: white vote: O'Malley - approx. 40%, Ehrlich - 60%. black vote: O'Malley - approx. 93%, Ehrlich - 7%. O'Malley won by 200k votes. Blacks represent about 30% of the electorate in Maryland. In order for Ehrlich to have won, he would have had to take about 30% of the black vote. Without the black vote, Maryland would be one of the most conservative states in the country. And the GOP is doing very little to make inroads in the African American Community in Maryland.

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bill bissenas

8:33 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Frank cutely attempts to accuse me of racism. But these kinds of tactics are a part of the nature of the left. Frank, and Dem politicians use such tactics to divide us. I've laid out the facts. If the GOP wants to win statewide office in Maryland, they have to take a greater share of the black vote. It's not racism, it's fact.

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bill bissenas

10:23 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I brought up race, you brought up the racism.

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bill bissenas

12:53 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Not quite. You manufactured the racism.

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Mercy Fork

5:00 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

This conversation is awesome.

Judith Moylan-Forman

4:36 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

On July 30, Sarah Palin also endorsed Ted Cruz (R Texas) running for the Senate (As an FYI.....Cruz wants to gut social security and in fact called it a "ponzi scheme)."
It was during this 'shout-out' speech for Mr. Cruz, the ex-governor referenced Mr. Bongino....only she said....Mr. Dan "Ba-gina".....".

Anyway, Mr. Bongino always says at every whistle-stop that he is "fighting" ideology. The fact that he "asked" for the ex-governor's endorsement and is "honored" by it really proves otherwise.....AKA...the ideology of the Tea Party.

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Amy Leahy

4:52 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

@ J M-F: Rather the tea party Constitution than the Democrat-Socialist ideology. We see how well the past three and a half years of Hope & Change have gone. And the U.S. Constitution right along with it - down the drain.

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Sandra James

6:06 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Frank, the democrats have been in control the last 8 years. I suppose you shot yourself in the foot.

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Brian

6:11 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

2012 - 2004 = like the lady said, the last 8 years.

For the last 3 1/2 years to be much better than the prior 8, you obviously are a "taker" because you are definitely not a "maker". So sit back and keep living off of the rest of us... what a legacy!

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bill bissenas

7:46 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

The progressive/socialist party, formerly known as the Democrat Party, will take from you, your liberty and your property, always (in the name of the communal goodness). Why? Because this is how they maintain power. And it doesn't matter whether it's Ken "dirty, filthy" Ulman, Martin O'Taxey, or Teh Won. They all subscribe to the same political philosophy. Whether it's a takeover of the health industry (The Messiah), raising fees and taxes 24 times in five years (O'Taxey), or spending more than any other county per capita, $5,300, including Montgomery County, or banning smoking in public parks (Ken "dirty, filthy" Ulman), the Democrats will strive to undermine the principals upon which this country was founded.

Judith Moylan-Forman

5:30 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

How that "socialism" thing got started....from Bill Sammon, a Millersville, MD resident @ the time & a Fox News Exec..... in his own words

Speaking in 2009 onboard a pricey Mediterranean cruise sponsored by a right-wing college, Fox Washington managing editor Bill Sammon described his attempts the previous year to link Obama to "socialism" as "mischievous speculation." Sammon, who is also a Fox News vice president, acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched."

"Last year, candidate Barack Obama stood on a sidewalk in Toledo, Ohio, and first let it slip to Joe the Plumber that he wanted to quote, 'spread the wealth around,' " said Sammon. "At that time, I have to admit, that I went on TV on Fox News and publicly engaged in what I guess was some rather mischievous speculation about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism, a premise that privately I found rather far-fetched

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bill bissenas

7:52 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Hillsdale College is one of the most open and yes, progressive (in a good way), colleges in the country. If you knew and understood it's history, you'd understand that. By his own admission, Teh Won has been immersed in the socialist philosophy. And in his most candid, unscripted remarks, we see that The Messiah-in-Chief subscribes to communal/collectivist principles. His open hostility to business and his high regard for government and the public sector give ample proof of his socialist leanings. The leftist meme about Bill Sammon and the Med cruise gets slam dunked:
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/03/30/no-bill-sammon-didnt-lie-about-thinking-obama-was-a-socialist-which-he-totally-is/

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bill bissenas

8:35 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Who's Frank and why should anyone take him seriously?

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Brian

8:40 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Frank is a person who lives off of the hard work of others. Can't contribute anything useful to society, so why not take whatever the government is handing out.

Judith Moylan-Forman

5:51 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Back to Mr. Bongino:
People he aligns himself with:
Attended the "Restoring Courage" rally with Glenn Beck in Israel in Aug. 2011
Also attended with the controversial pastor John Hagee, David Barton, and right-wing leaders of the Israeli party.
Mr. Bongino calls Thomas Sowell his favorite author/economist who compared Pres. Obama to Hitler over his treatment of the Gulf Oil Spill.
Generation Joshua- a nationwide organization that advocates raising Christian children by getting them politically involved...(ages 12-19). AKA...Child warriors... Their mantra is homosexuality is an "abomination". They were instrumental in Michelle Bachmann's re-election.
These are just a few.

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Sandra James

6:42 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Judith, and who does Pres. Obama align himself with? After you finish reading this reference, (and I suggest all people responding here should), sit back and ponder your position ( http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/04/28/one-evil-man-soros-by-steve-kroft-60-minute-4-years-of-research/).

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bill bissenas

7:59 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Read Dr. Sowell's seminal work, "Conflict of Visions." Bill Whittle called this book the unified field theory of politics. It explains why your unconstrained vision of Man is doomed to failure.

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bill bissenas

8:39 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Redo of my last on Sowell: Sowell focused on one aspect of the nature of the hitler regime: the manner in which businesses were treated. And similarly, the Obama regime extorted $20 billion from BP.

Judith Moylan-Forman

6:18 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Mr. Bongino is free to solicit the endorsements from any person or group he chooses, but I wish he would stop saying that he is against any type of "ideology" or that he is "one of us" or that he's "not a party guy" and that "party labels don't matter." It is crystal clear the political thought Mr. Bongino ascribes to.

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Judith Moylan-Forman

7:31 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

@ Sandra: this has been edited.....I'm not going to indulge you and once again use Soros as your boogeyman. If you must, Soros was 14, the same age that the now Roman Catholic Pope Benedict joined the Hitler Youth Army. Can we stick to the topic of Mr. Bongino?

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bill bissenas

7:56 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

So you bring up Hitler, Sandra responds by rightly pointing out Soros's involvement and then you say you're not going to bother with boogeymen? Lol... looks like you've been taking lessons from Axelrod and Obama in the art of obfuscation and double standards. Right out of the Alinsky playbook.

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bill bissenas

12:55 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

You mean like Breitbart? Gladly.

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bill bissenas

1:52 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Breitbart was raised in the Jewish faith. Here's another couple of Jews for you, Ben Shapiro and Joel Pollack. They run Breitbart.com. Oh, and here's another Jewish name for you, Chiat. That's my father-in-law's name. Yep, that's right Frank, that's right.

Theresa Defino

7:54 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

There's nothing worse than a (self-righteous, indigent) ex-Democratic. Kind of a like an ex-smoker. I think the change makes them crazy.

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Amy Leahy

11:35 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

@ J. M-F - I personally find nothing wrong with the people Bongino aligns himself with. At least none of them have blown up government buildings, been responsible for killing police, or preach about damning America from the pulpit. Seriously…you have a problem with 'right-wing' conservatives who are law abiding citizens ….well I have a problem with communists in the White House.

Dan Bongino is correct when he describes himself as an outsider. He has never run for office, is not part of the Republican party elite in Maryland and has had to work hard to get their support. What he is meaning when he says party labels don't matter is that he will represent all of the citizens, not just the special interest groups and/or the Republicans.

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Brian

6:06 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

"So total, complete inexperience is a good thing, Amy?"

Only if you are a community organizer. Unbelievable

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Brian

8:21 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Um no Frankie, get your facts straight. What exactly was his voting record as Senator Obama... 152 votes as "present". Are you serious, he could not take a position on anything, not even one vote. Furthermore, half of his time as Senator Obama was spent on the campaign trail for president. Again, his only real experience was a community organizer.

You could not do simple math in your comments above to Sandra, so pointing out the obvious is clearly a waste of time to people as ignorant as yourself.

Equal Opportunity, not equal outcome! The day the "takers" (like yourself) out number the "makers" is the day this country is in deep trouble. That day is today.

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bill bissenas

8:42 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Wow, so "only" 129 times voted "present." Thanks for clearing that up.

Adam R

5:52 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Thank you Sarah now I know what to do!

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Kim W.

7:58 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Funny enough, I could care less what this woman has to say.

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bill bissenas

8:03 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I'm sure the lefties on this thread have never seen this, but it is true, nevertheless, regardless of who the quote is attributed to:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism”, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

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bill bissenas

8:46 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

""When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - [Self Described Socialist] Upton Sinclair

There, fixed your last post for you. Conservatism, Libertarianism and the Tea Party aren't fascist movements. Why? Because they seek to reduce the size of government and keep government constrained and out of our lives, and to uphold the principles of the Constitution. These movements can't become fascist. However, liberalism, progressivism, and socialism can. Why? Because in order to achieve their goals, they need to enlist the government to force people to do things they don't want to do.

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Mercy Fork

5:15 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Since America is actually moving further and further to the right, it seems doubtful that socialism is going to sweep the nation any time in the near future.

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bill bissenas

11:09 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

MF - it's about the long run and incrementalism. See my post below in response to Frank.

David J Iacono

8:38 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

An endorsement from Palin. That should really help a candidate running for office in Maryland. Who's next, Donald Trump.

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Buck Harmon

8:42 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I think Trump would have been the only hope for Repubs to beat Obama, Now we're stuck with the lessor of two evils....od should I say the lessor of two liars. Trump would have won hands down.....not to sat that he would have been a great president though..

O.P. Ditch

9:04 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... see you at the ballot box.

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JTS53

11:29 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I would encourage every Maryland voter to meet Dan Bongino personally - and there is ample opportunity because, unlike Mr. Cardin, Dan is out in public daily. Once you meet him and talk to him, you will quickly realize he is not an ideologue. He is an exceptionally bright, dedicated citizen who wants to help his state and country. You don't have to agree with every one of his positions; just trust that he will be a better choice than his opponent. And Dan certainly doesn't endorse all of Sarah Palin's positions but he didn't actively seek her endorsement. But when she became of aware of Dan and offered her support, he would have been crazy to decline - like her or not, she generates votes and Dan is happy to accept them.

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Anthony

12:37 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I've never even heard of him. I'm looking for alternative to Cardin. But he needs to get the word out.

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bill bissenas

1:02 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Anthony, here's his website: http://www.bongino.com/

It provides a list of events where you can meet Mr. Bongino. I hope you'll consider voting for him.

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

1:05 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

JSTS53- "And Dan certainly doesn't endorse all of Sarah Palin's positions but he didn't actively seek her endorsement."

The above article - "Bongino said in a press release that he sought the support of the former vice presidential candidate and is honored to receive it."

*headasplode*

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jag

1:26 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Whaaaaaaaa, JTS53. "unlike Mr. Cardin, Dan is out in public daily". You mean to say Cardin is sometimes busy doing other things...like, you know, representing us in DC? How absurd! I definitely hold that against him, too.

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bill bissenas

1:39 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

I guess Cardin is up on the hill busily working on that Senate Budget, huh? Yep, no budget, three years and counting. Congress is adjourned for August. Where is Ben? Answer: avoiding his constituents. Why? Because he doesn't have to interact with the electorate. He know he's going to win regardless of who the GOP puts on the other side of the ballot.

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bill bissenas

3:06 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

So it looks like Cardin mostly meets with the media. Okay, good point, the media is the natural constituency of any Dem. But compare that to Bongino's schedule. He's everywhere, meeting hundreds, thousands of people each week.

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

4:30 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

"But compare that to Bongino's schedule. He's everywhere, meeting hundreds, thousands of people each week."

http://www.bongino.com/events/ shows about the same level of engagement as Cardin if not less. http://www.bongino.com/events/past/ shows only two events in august total.

Do you have access to some special schedule?

Judith Moylan-Forman

1:20 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

@JTS53
From the above blog post by Anna Staver
"Bongino said in a press release that he sought the support of the former vice presidential candidate and is honored to receive it."

and...."just trust" that he'll be a better choice"? ....really? It's like Mitt Romney saying "trust me" I paid taxes.

The fact that Bongino signed Grover Norquist's Pledge Against Taxes is proof enough that he is an idealogue.....right off the bat, he is against eliminating corporate loopholes which is part of the pledge.

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bill bissenas

1:32 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

So a person is an idealogue if they believe people have a right to keep more of their own property? There you have it folks, the demonization of liberty and property rights. It's come to this in our country. It's like Obama saying, "No one accused Mr. Romney of being a felon."

Judith Moylan-Forman

1:38 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

@bill bissenas...if we have to keep coming back to this:

How about Mitt Romney and his father's ties to Saul Alinsky?
It seems, President Obama isn't the only presidential candidate with the one-degree-of-separation tie to Alinsky. In his biography of Mitt Romney's father, Michigan Governor George Romney, T. George Harris wrote in his book "Romney's Way" that the elder Romney and Alinsky met after the Detroit riots of 1967:

When Saul Alinsky wanted to meet with the white Detroit rulers, Romney indirectly arranged the meeting, and attended.

"I think you ought to listen to Alinsky," Romney told his reluctant white friends. ‘It seems to me that we are always talking to the same people. Maybe the time has come to hear new voices." Said an Episcopal bishop, ‘He made Alinsky sound like a Republican.
They met several times and actually became friends.

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bill bissenas

1:45 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

So Mitt Romney attended a play in Alinsky's honor, and participated in a panel discussion afterwards about all the wonderful things Alinsky had done? Yeah, Obama knows nothing about Alinsky and Rules for Radicals. Alinsky's dedication to satan in RFR:
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer"

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bill bissenas

1:56 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

You mean besides progressivism (i.e., socialism) and it's existential threat to liberty and property rights? (see my earlier post above).

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bill bissenas

2:17 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

There is no final battle. As Milton Friedman (another Jew) pointed out, resisting collectivism is a never ending struggle.

Judith Moylan-Forman

2:01 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

@ bill bessenas
Unlike in 2010, many of the new Young Guns currently running have backed away from signing this pledge. At Norquist's annual "educational meeting" on Capitol Hill, it was under attended. Many have said the pledge is too rigid ( Rep. Rigell- (R) Va) and prefer to run on their record. (Rep. Perry- (R) PA) feels the same way. Yikes....moderate thinking Republicans. What shall we do?

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bill bissenas

2:16 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

QED. The left's view: If you support liberty and property rights, you must not be a thinker. Instead, to be a thinker you must agree with the communal-collectivism of the progressive/socialist.

Just a guy

6:17 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Jeez, it's like watching FOX "news", too funny...
President Obama a socialist? Please, he's a horrible socialist. Giving the health care insurance companies 35 million new customers to gouge, and deny claims for.
Personally I think the Democrats made a huge mistake when they decided that $250K a year was a cutoff point for taxes. If they had said if you make less than 1 million/year, who would really argue with that? The difference in revenue between taxing 250, and 1 mill is pretty small in the grand scheme of things... And you really think Joe the plumber would argue that raising the tax rate on people making over 1 million a year 1% is bad? The top tax rate it actually at the lowest level in history. perhaps they would like to go back to the 50's where the top rate was 90%?
US corporations are holding over 4 trillion, yes, that's trillion dollars overseas, because they don't want to pay any taxes. They could bring that money back home, and create factories, jobs, whatever, if they got a little help of a lower tax rate along with getting rid of deductions, but the nut jobs on both side of the isle JUST CAN"T EVEN TALK ABOUT A COMPROMISE... They wouldn't win a primary runoff for dog catcher. Karl Rove, the Koch brothers, Adelson on the right, and whoever is on the left wouldn't stand for it... All because of a horrible decision by the SCOTUS... (citizens united). We are becoming the laughing stock of the rest of the wold, and that's saying something.

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bill bissenas

11:12 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Having a Marxist philosophy and having the ability to implement it are two different things.

Just a guy

6:17 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

You all are too funny. No wonder nothing can get done. The Republicans, (and I use that term loosely, I being a life long Republican...) say they are all about JOBS, JOBS, Jobs, no wait, I meant ABORTION. 63 bills in the house this year, and 0, ZERO for jobs... They should be horse whipped... Let's just call it Jobortion...

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bill bissenas

11:16 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

How many jobs bills has the House of the 112th Congress passed that were ignored by the Dem Senate and President? Sounds like it's time for you to switch parties or become unaffiliated.

Just a guy

11:33 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

The house has passed ZERO bills that didn't include some poison pill amendment about tax cuts or abortion. They just aren't serious. They will do NOTHING and have the world economy fail just to blame President Obama. They refuse to put forth a clean bill. The President would sign it. But no, it's about Jobortion, or some other crackpot, far right, religious nut bag idea. Usually funded by the Koch brothers... (those guys, that if they don't like you or your ideas, drop a Brinks trunk of cash on you...)

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Laura Jackson

4:57 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Bill, you're seriously wasting your time in here (attempting to argue with the nonsense that comes out of "FRANK"). Of course he's LIBERAL. Of course he voted for Obama and plans to vote for him again in November. Oh--maybe you didn't know this about Frank, Bill. He was on another blog fighting with me just because I oppose same-sex marriage. I am a "Conservative Republican" American and have the right to vote however I choose. And, I personally think it's sick for men to marry men and women to marry women. Even Obama fought same-sex marriage. However, how soon they forget!! Obama only changed his mind about same-sex marriage because he NEEDS to get the "gay" votes in November. And, I believe you were right when you said that Frank doesn't want to work or likes to "live off of the system" (which is all the Democrats do--give, give, give to the lazy people who refuse to work). For the record, it doesn't matter to me if you are Jewish or whatever. But, I thought you should know that Frank (while we are on the subject of him being a nutcase) does not believe that GOD exists. He thinks God is a "fairytale." Everything is a joke to Frank. What IS a joke is Obama. He's an OBAMA-NATION! The latest news: This past weekend, Iran threatened to destroy ALL JEWS (as the President of Iran stood under banners saying "Death to Israel" and "Death to America"). And, what's Obama's response? Bowing out of this. Not standing by Israel--which belongs to JEWS and not ARABS!

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bill bissenas

8:37 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Thanks Laura. Progressives (socialists) seem to always mistake cleverness for intelligence. We see the Unicorn Prince (Obama) do this all the time.

Laura Jackson

5:00 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Frank also claims that Obama was NEVER on the news and slipped by saying something to the effect, "It's true that John McCain did not talk about my MUSLIM faith." He did, Frank--check it out. It's all over Youtube. And, while you think THAT is also not true--FYI--I saw his interview on "live" television. Notice, Bill, how Frank mentions that Barack Obama was a Senator from Illinois. More like ill--annoy.

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jag

11:19 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Good god, Laura. How many inane comments can you post in a row. That's seriously the best you got? Some dumb, anti-Islam rant that was debunked a half decade ago?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimfaith.asp

Laura Jackson

5:13 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Just following the topic, Frank, as it goes along. But, if you want to know--I happen to like Sarah Palin. I like her "conservative" viewpoints. Is that better for you, Frank? I think you did not want "Bill" knowing what you think about other "democratic" viewpoints which is why you are so pro-Obama. At least, McCain did not have "hate groups" out there trying to sway the polls (like Obama did--as when the Black Panthers stood outside of the polls in NY city). Do you actually think that was right to do to the American voter?? Try getting votes legitimately at first; but, when you think that might fail, resort to some sort of "intimidation"?

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Laura Jackson

5:15 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Exactly how many jobs did "Obama" create there, Frank? As far as I can tell, NONE. In fact, the unemployment rate is the worst it has ever been. But, perhaps if you got up and got a job, it would help Obama out just a little.

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jag

11:24 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

"In fact, the unemployment rate is the worst it has ever been"

FYI, putting "in fact" in front of something doesn't turn a blatant lie into a fact.

"Exactly how many jobs did "Obama" create there, Frank?"

28 straight months of job growth say you don't live in our reality. 4.5 MILLION private sector jobs added during that time. It's true that public sector jobs have declined. Apparently you prefer larger government? Feel free to vote for someone else who will change the current course of private sector growth and public sector shrinkage.

Laura Jackson

5:25 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

For the record, Frank--I kept my word about not returning to the "same-sex-faggot-marriage" site. And, I'm not about to--that is a "dead" issue as far as I'm concerned. But, you're wrong about the voters, Frank. I know of more and more people who have turned against Obama (except for the ones getting free assistance, like you--welfare and food stamps) since he took over in 2008. Then again, the unemployment rate has risen so high in the last 4 years, I suppose they just "might" vote for Obama--since they will keep needing that Government assistance (just like you get). As for those "undecided" votes--I believe when they read your posts, they will switch to the "conservative" side--All the way, unless they're gay. LOL.

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Amy Leahy

5:54 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

At least Bongino is not a lawyer. We have too many Democrat lawyers ruining everything for us... in the U. S. Capitol and in the MD legislature.

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jag

11:16 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I know. Who would have thought that most people who craft laws would have bothered going to law school first. So dumb for voters to think that's important. #Sarcasm.

Buck Harmon

6:04 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Once again....Any attempt at reasonable debate with Frank is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess the pigeon will walk all over the board, crap on it, knock over the pieces and then strut around with it's breast puffed as though it were a winner....

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Just a guy

7:08 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Ok, Laura, you get to go this time.

While you are free to think and feel anyway you want, what do you base your dislike or opposition to gay marriage on? Marriage is a civil construct, endowing the parties with rights and obligations. Exactly how do a gay married couple affect you or the way you live? If it's a biblical objection, (say Leviticus 18-20), what about the other prohibitions? Shellfish? Pork? Death for using the Lord's name in vain? Is slavery ok by you then? Because it's certainly ok in the Bible... I mean really, you can't just pick and choose which ones you follow and which ones you ignore.

And Laura, you really need to read some facts. Unemployment is not the highest ever. It was just over 10% BEFORE President Obama took office, Thanks to GW Bush's tow wars that he didn't pay for, unrestrained greed on Wall Street, and everyone involved with the real estate business. (again greed). It was gotten progressively better for the last 30 months...

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bill bissenas

8:26 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Most proponents of SSM believe no harm is done to anyone in legalizing SSM. And this is because they discount the beliefs of those who oppose SSM. And why do they do this? Because they must effectively propose the death of God. Once God is dead, all things are possible. As seen in the post above, proponents belittle religious based beliefs on this issue.
With regard to greed and the housing bubble, the comments above ignore the crucial and essential role that government and Democrats played in creating housing the crisis.

Laura Jackson

7:12 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Frank--really? I cannot believe you could do this to me! I mean--I truly thought I was "special" to you. I thought you only enjoyed arguing with me and only me. But, I spied on you today (that's right--I was checking up on you) and found you on about five other blogs arguing with other people! You are not faithful to me! I think I may cry. But, on a "lighter" note: I thought up a good joke for you. You wanna hear it? What is the difference between Muslims, Liberals, and Obama? Ready?? Well, Muslims oppose the right to bare arms; Liberals oppose the right to bear arms; and Obama opposes the right to bear arms WITH bare arms. LOL. Now, Frank--you had better stop arguing with other people (besides me). I'm liable to get jealous. ; D

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Laura Jackson

7:20 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Oh--and too bad you missed it. I was on the radio today at about 12:30 p.m. with Pastor Raymond from Woodbridge, VA. I hope you don't mind; but, I felt the need to talk to him about you, FIFA, Amy and some other people. Anyhow, long story short--he told me I was exactly right; I was doing the "right" thing. And, he did tell me I should pray for you all. And, I have and still will. Immediately following my conversation, a hispanic woman (not being racist--she spoke with an accent) called in and indicated that she loved Jesus and was a Christian but supported same-sex marriage. The Pastor paused for a moment; let her say what she wanted to say (against what I had just said); and then he said, "You DO know that I ALSO oppose same-sex marriage. I do not believe men should marry other men. . . . ." He then cut her off short and told her he was NOT going to "argue" with her about the subject. Then, he prayed with her. I thought you might want to know. Anyhow, I do pray for you, Frank. I know you love to argue. But, I do know this: You won't be able to argue with God. He's going to win! For the record, even though you argued with other people today (besides just me), I still love you! ; D

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Laura Jackson

7:32 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Richard--As I said before, I do not care what others do (meaning gay people). However, I do oppose same-sex marriage (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10). And, yes, I try my best to base my entire life on what God wants for my life (not what the world says is okay). The world's way of living is very wicked. Sorry. But, it is. You can search the story of how God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Why? Because of all of the sexual sins. And, yeah--I believe that's what's going on in America today. The world has come down to a "who cares" or "anything goes" attitude on living. And, yeah--I believe it's got to be making God angry. As for this bickering back and forth--a pleasant banter never hurts anyone. So, while you support gay marriage, that's fine. I just oppose it. And, again--we are Americans. We are not living in a Country that makes you cover yourself, cannot vote, cannot do anything--although, since 9/11, we HAVE lost quite a bit of our freedom. But, I am free to vote for or against anything I choose (just as you are). If I DO sin, then I--and I alone--will have to give an account for everything I've done when I stand before God. We all will have to do that one day. I do not think gay people are loved any less or will not be "forgiven" for their sins. Because, if they ask for forgiveness, I believe they will be forgiven. But, that subject is "dead" to me now. That's why I am staying off the subject.

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bill bissenas

8:31 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

The secular progressives must kill God so that nothing stands in the way of progress. Only with the death of God can all things be made possible. So you see Laura, you must be mocked and belittled because you represent a threat to the progressive agenda.

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DawnP

8:49 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

No, Bill. Laura is mocked and belittled because she is a total crackpot who claims to have these deeply held religious convictions but then turns around and says maybe she'd vote in favor of same sex marriage if gay people were only NICER TO HER.

Laura Jackson

7:40 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

And, in case anyone is interested in listening to a Christian broadcast (such as the one I spoke on today), feel free. From 12:00 p.m. until 1:00 p.m. (780 AM radio), you can listen to the Word of God. Of course, this IS America. I'm not saying you have to listen. The choice is yours. God gave us the choice to do whatever we wanted to do. He doesn't force Himself on anyone. And, contrary to what others think--I DO love all people. I just do not like some of the actions of some people. Please do not say you disagree with that. I'm sure everyone hates terrorists (or their actions); or does not like the actions of a murderer or rapist, etc. However, with my faith, I believe that even a murderer can be saved and go to Heaven (if he/she repents of that sin and begs God for forgiveness). Again--that's just MY belief, Richard. I'm not saying it must be your belief. But, you asked. So, I told you. And, no--I most certainly do NOT use the Lord's name in vain. I never claimed I was a "perfect" Christian (as there is no such thing in this world). If I were perfect (or we all were perfect), then nobody would need the salvation of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in our lives. And, sorry--but, I disagree about the unemployment rates. The polls might be saying something differently now; but, I constantly hear on the news of all the businesses that close down, and how people are losing their homes, etc. The economy is NOT fine. By a long stretch. And, we need CHANGE.

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Laura Jackson

7:49 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

And, Richard--I must say that ObamaCare is really going to hurt a lot of people. There will be people who cannot afford healthcare; and, so, those of us that DO work will have to pick up THEIR portion of it (we'll be heavily taxed) so that everyone can have health insurance. And, since this has passed, there's no telling how far this legislation will go. They are already attempting to tax the American people for abortions (called an Abortion surcharge). And, since that goes against what I believe in, why should I be forced to pay for another woman to kill her child? I also do not want to continue paying for those people who are too lazy to work. And, please don't say there aren't people that do this. In fact, I had an ex-friend who "claimed" to be disabled--only to find out he really was not. His attitude was that if other people can screw over the system, why shouldn't he? That's why I am no longer friends with this person. There's only so much "wickedness" one can deal with. And, pretending to be disabled is disgusting to me (especially when there ARE disabled people out there that really cannot work--legitimately). Hope you can agree to disagree with me, Richard. Have a good night. I have some laundry to do right now. :D

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DawnP

8:52 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, there are CURRENTLY millions of people who can't afford health insurance, and we already ARE paying for them. Every time they go to the Emergency Room (which is their only source of care), the uncompensated costs of those visits are rolled into the prices everyone else pays, which is reflected in higher insurance rates for everyone.

Laura Jackson

8:06 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Actually, George Carlin had it right when he suggested food for oil. I can guarantee you that WE could live a lot longer than our Arab nations without oil than THEY could live without food. Yeah--they could eat their camels, if it came down to that; but, eventually, they'd run out of food. And, I agree that illegal immigrants should have guns strapped to them and be sent to fight in our Wars (instead of our children). Hey--if they want to come to our Country, then let them; but, make them FIGHT for our Country, make them pay taxes (like everyone else has to--because they do not have to pay taxes for the first 5 years or at all--if nobody finds out they're living here), make them follow OUR rules, dress like we dress, and, most importantly, learn how to speak English (American, I should say). There's nothing worse than ordering a hamburger at a McDonald's or something, and they have no clue what you're saying. Or, when Verizon calls you and you cannot understand a word that's coming out of his/her mouth. I ask them ONCE to repeat themselves. If I still cannot understand them, I come right out and tell them that. Then, I hang up. Mean? I don't think so. It's like the time I went to a mall and saw a group of Muslim (I'm guessing) women dressed all in black and nothing showing except for their eyes. It was scary. I wondered WHY they were at a mall. It could not be for clothing; and since their mouths were covered, how could they eat? Just wonder, that's all. Hmm.

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DawnP

8:53 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

But no, Laura's not a bigot at all...

Laura Jackson

8:15 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Frank, Frank, Frank--thanks. I'm feeling special to you again! Yay!!! Reagan was a GREAT President. He was responsible for having the Berlin Wall torn down. Nobody else could do that. Besides, I was too young to be working when he was President. So, frankly Frank, I don't care about the unemployment rates. I know my parents were both working; and, we never lost our home. And, all of my friends' parents were also working and none of them lost their homes either. Not quite sure you got your facts straight. He was one of the best Presidents we ever had. Besides, he liked jelly beans. I LOVE jelly beans. So, there!!! Okay--your turn. But, unlike you, I change my underwear every day; so, I must do laundry. It's been nice though, Frank. We really have to stop meeting like this. My husband might get the wrong idea. And, your partner might think you switched teams. uh oh! :O

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Laura Jackson

8:19 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

To Frank: Before I go, I forgot to say, "Dan Bongino; Dan Bongino; Dan Bongino; Dan Bongino; Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino." There, I made sure to say that just for you. Can I do my laundry now, Frank? Thanks. :D

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Laura Jackson

8:22 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Yes, Frank--I do know that George Carlin was an Atheist. But, I still think he was a funny guy. And, a lot of what he said made sense. Like the fact that we only have houses to hold our stuff. That one was a riot. See? I loved George Carlin--An Atheist. I didn't change him. However, even you do not know what went through his head just before he died or if he changed his mind about religion.

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bill bissenas

8:52 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Great bit by Carlin on the nutty leftists and their desire to "save the planet". I didn't agree with all the things he said and believed, but in this case, he was spot on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

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Buck Harmon

9:24 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I want to be like Carlin was when I grow up...

Just a guy

6:42 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura really? There you go mentioning the Bible again, yet you don't own any slaves? Ever eat a McRib? How do you decide which parts you are going to follow and care about, and which you can say,"shucks, they didn't mean that..." I mean, it's the word of GOD isn't it?

Ever sell your daughters into slavery? It's allowed...

Ok, Laura, you say we are losing freedoms. Name 3 freedoms that you had on the last day of GW Bush's presidency that you don't have today, or you expect to lose? (even in the next 20 years), GO ahead.

And lastly Laura, who do you think pays for people that don't have insurance when they go to the emergency room when they get sick now? (emergency room medical care it the MOST expensive kind) WE do already. Hospitals pass the cost on to EVERYBODY ELSE. Perhaps, just maybe, if we provide health insurance to the really needy, and they can go to a primary care provider or clinic, it will cost us less in the long run. Or are you one of those "Christians" that don't believe that part of the Bible that says help the sick and needy?

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bill bissenas

8:33 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

What is the major cost driver in our healthcare system? Hint: It isn't emergency room visits.

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DawnP

8:56 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Richard, you're fighting the good fight here, but I'll tell you from past experience that there's no getting through to Laura. You can't reason with crazy. (Or trolls -- I actually suspect that she's taking on a fake persona and spouting intentionally outrageous and inflammatory "beliefs" just to rile people up.)

I need to take my own advice and walk away.

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bill bissenas

9:27 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

With regard to "Christians" and the sick and needy. The secular and religious progressives consistently misinterpret the ministry of Christ on Earth. It was a ministry of showing us the path to personal salvation and redemption. It was not a mission of redistribution through government confiscation. And yet the left persists in misleading the public and its followers on this point.

Buck Harmon

9:28 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I would tend to think of Laura as brutally honest...and pretty good at dealing with the Patch pigeons that are always crapping up the threads....you don't have to be right all the time to be honest....I commend her for the efforts displayed...

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Buck Harmon

9:32 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

With regard to Obamacare...doesn't really matter at this point. There are nowhere near enough primary care doctors in our country to be able to see the huge influx of new patients projected in the illusion. It will take a minimum of 10 years to fill the void, thereby rendering "the plan" ineffective from the start.

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bill bissenas

9:42 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

There are so many things wrong with Obamacare, too numerous to count. The doctor shortage is just one, then there's the employers dumping employees into the government exchanges, insurers who can't make the 85 percent cut going out of business resulting in consolidation and less competition and higher prices, the push demand of subsidization that will raise prices, and the lack of price controls of insurers. It's a ready made disaster that will ultimately push the system to single payer.

Buck Harmon

9:33 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

The perceived new healthcare system will be different but certainly not better.

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Laura Jackson

9:54 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

DawnP--sorry that you can't tell sarcasm from truth. For the record, there's NOTHING "fake" about me at all. And, I'm sorry to say that my comment that I would refrain from voting to oppose same-sex marriage if "gay" people were nice was, indeed, sarcasm. I AM VOTING AGAINSt SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. So, deal with it. As for your comments against MY religious beliefs, doesn't this make YOU a "BIGOT"? I tend to think so. Besides, we are not taking about fags in here. This is a political discussion. Now, take your own advice and go back in to the "gay" site. Be "gay." LOL. OH--According to Websters dictionary, that means happy and carefree. Now, don't go away mad, DawnP, just go away. And, I'm NOT a "bigot." I love you, too! Evil people really tend to hate when love is poured out to them. It's burning, isn't it? But, yes--I love all people (even the gays). I just disagree with their behaviors. Big difference.

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Laura Jackson

10:07 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Bill and Brian--you just need to take what Frank and DawnP says with a grain of salt. They don't know what they're taking about. They aren't far left--more like FAR OUT THERE. Frank loves to argue with everyone--just check out his posts on every other issue. This proves he does not work (we pay for him to stay and home to argue with others). He isn't happy because he cannot marry his "partner" in Maryland. Well, even if he can (it still will NEVER be recognized by God). So what if it's recognized by man? Who cares?? I do not. I just don't want these liberal "gays" contracting HIV/AIDS, losing everything they own, and then expect me (and those who do work and who are not gay) to pay for his hospitalization and his bills when he does get sick. Ever notice that Liberals are liberal (even with their spending)? Oh--that's right--it isn't even THEIR money that they're spending. It's OURS. Anyhow, you have to ignore the "ignorant." As for Obama, his Muslim faith is what I don't get. He admitted to it on a live news interview. Oh--a slip of the tongue. He didn't mean to say, "Muslim." Right? Nah--wake up, people. He also wants to get all of the Jews out of Israel. Maybe that's why he won't side with Israel when a real threat exists by Iran. Scary thought! And, you say the Bible is cruel??? Try reading some of the Koran! They actually believe it is GOOD to kill other people. In fact, they believe they'll get rewarded with 72 "VIRGINS" in Paradise one day!

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DawnP

10:42 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, have you actually read any of the Koran, or did you just get this from Fox News?

(Countdown to Laura "accusing" me of being Muslim as well as gay in 3...2...1...)

Laura Jackson

10:12 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, Buck--good one: You want to be like Carlin when you grow up! Love it. While I did not agree with his religious beliefs, I still appreciated his sense of humor. DawnP apparently doesn't have one (a sense of humor, that is). She's always right there with Frank (ranting and raving) and oh--her name-calling. I find it rather humorous. She calls me a bigot. Why? Because I said the word, "faggot." Gee, I thought faggot was a bundle of sticks. And, I thought "fag" was a cigarette. Must have different meanings to her. So sad that she has no sense of humor. So sad. As for everything always having to be "politically correct," this IS America. Freedom of Speech!!! Of course, Obama wants us to be under his DICTATION. Yes--he wants this to be a "socialist" Country! He can certainly try. But, he will not succeed. :D

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DawnP

10:35 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, I called you a bigot not only because of your use of homophobic slurs, but because of your obvious intolerance for gays and lesbians as well as anyone who doesn't dress, speak, or think like you. (Exhibit A is your crazy rant on Wednesday at 8:06pm.)

And which is it -- does Obama want a dictatorship or socialism? Because they are two different things.

I absolutely have a sense of humor -- in particular, I find it hilarious that you and Bill are so enthralled by George Carlin, who was liberal, at least on "social" issues. For example:

"Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're f**ked."

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DawnP

10:37 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And sorry, I meant to refer to Laura and BUCK being so enthalled by George Carlin, not Laura and Bill.

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bill bissenas

10:51 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Carlin fundamentally misunderstands the conservative movement because he assumes that government must be the primary provider of services after birth.

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DawnP

10:56 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Oh, right, Bill. I forgot -- you conservatives are for small government -- just small enough to fit inside my uterus.

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bill bissenas

10:58 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I what respect. What do you mean by that?

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Buck Harmon

7:23 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

DawnP, I have made no statement regarding any of the issues that you mention in this thread other than Obamacare....A Patch Pigeon would assume that I have a certain stance regarding issues that have not been addressed by me though..congrats Honey Child , you are officially on the poo list, Queen of the Patch pigeons crapping up the board.

Laura Jackson

10:21 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, Richard: Regarding your comments about slavery. I can only tell you this: The Old Testament records God's dealings with His chosen people, the Israelites, and the promise He made to them to bless the world through them. The New Testament records what Christians believe is the fulfillment of that promise, the birth of Christ, His life and the building of His church. Those of Jewish faith regard the Old Testament as their scripture. Those of Christian faith see both the Old and New Testaments as scripture. The Bible does not say anywhere that God supports slavery. In fact, slavery described in the Old Testament was entirely different; as slaves in ancient biblical times meant someone to whom you paid to do a service. Today, we call them "maids" or "janitors." Do I like it? No. In fact, I clean my own house for that very reason. Heck--I feel guilty for having my nails done. I realize these people earn their living by doing that; but, it makes me feel like I am somehow "above" them. And, I do not feel that way. Anyhow, God did indicate that anyone who would harm any "slave" by beating him/her would be punished. So, no--God, in my opinion, never condoned slavery. I hope this helps to answer your question. As for Obama saying he wanted to completely revise the Bible--it is never going to happen. If he did that, I'm certain that nobody would buy it. Oh--nobody except for DawnP and Frank, that is. Yay!!!

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Laura Jackson

10:31 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, DawnP and Frank--if you believe the healthcare system currently in place is bad, and that we are already paying for the "losers" who refuse to work or get their own health insurance, think how much worse it will be once ObamaCare starts! Those who DO work will have to get TWO jobs just to keep up. And, the doctors will not make as much money (forcing those who ARE doctors already to go into early retirement). What incentive will there be for anyone to WANT to become a doctor? None. They will get less money; we will be charged more money--and, who will benefit? According to ObamaCare, young people. In fact, anyone over the age of 40 will NOT be cared for. He would just as soon have anyone over the age of 40 to die. Oh--except for himself, I'm sure. Somewhere in his own documents must state that HE will always get top-notch quality healthcare (for himself and his family). All other "Americans" who don't oppose the American Flag, saying the Pledge of Allegiance, placing our hands over our hearts during the National Anthem, etc. will get the worst healthcare ever. Wait and see. Somehow I knew there would be a problem with a man who showed his birth certificate online. Notice how it said: Race: African American (born in 1961). Really now? That's pretty funny, considering the term, "African American" was not even heard of in 1961. I believe the term used back then was "black." So tell me THAT was an "authentic" copy of his birth certificate!

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DawnP

10:43 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Lord, please give me strength to walk away from the crazy...

Laura Jackson

10:44 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Oh Frank--I'm so sorry. So, you know that these "slaves" in ancient biblical times were not free to leave? You know this how??? If you truly know this, you must be awfully old. And, if you know that they were not free to leave, how are you able to use the computer? They let you do that.

And, Richard--I will name just a FEW of our FREEDOMS that have been lost since the Obama Administration. ONE: We have to have our bodies X-RAYED at the Airports. TWO: We cannot use "racial profiling" of people (which we SHOULD be able to--especially if it helps to capture a criminal). THREE: Obama changed the ENTIRE Healthcare system. That takes OUR Freedom to opt out of getting health insurance if we so do choose as American citizens. Now, Richard--those are just THREE. There are more things I could say that this Administration has done to try to turn this Country into a Socialist Country; but, I will not. Obama has even attempted to enact the Blasphemy Law. In other words, he wants to "prosecute" or "have people put to death" just for the term, "Radical Muslim." Why is that, Richard? If someone calls me a "Radical Christian," it doesn't insult me. Why does Obama get so angry over that term??? Why does he not say anything about all of the Churches in the World being burned down or the Christians and Jews that are being killed every day and yet he goes crazy if something bad happens to a Mosque? Think about it! His own father was/is a "Radical Muslim." That's A FACT.

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Just a guy

1:11 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Xray's? That would be because of the TSA, and Homeland Security, and that was GEORGE W BUSH. (Ignorant)

2.) Racial profiling isn't reliable, or so says the Chief of Police of NYC, and BOSTON. It's not Constitutional,. under both the 4 and 14 amendments. (probable cause, and equal protection.) (twit)

3.) Have you had to change doctors? You shouldn't be free to avoid responsibility for paying what you owe of you get sick. How exactly has this in any way affected you. Other than insuran

Laura Jackson

10:46 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Make it three people who will now buy Obama's "revised" Bible: DawnP, Frank, and now, apparently, Richard. My mistake. Okay. Yay! He has three buyers. Do I hear four??

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Laura Jackson

10:50 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Just walk away, DawnP. Why can't you? And, Frank--yes, look carefull again at the Obama birth certificate. His race does, in fact, say, "African American." Guess you looked at one of the online "fake" birth certificates. Oh--that's right--ALL of them were "fake." LOL. And, yeah--call me a homophobe. Concerning you? Yes. I don't want your bodily fluids anywhere near me. True dat!

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Laura Jackson

10:53 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, Frank--this is not the "gay" site. You keep forgetting that. This issue is strictly about politics. Have you not forgotten? I guess it's hard for you to keep up (seeing that you go into EVERY article and argue with people). For the record, folks, I'm not the only one that DawnP and Frank have argued with. I've checked other blogs (not gotten on them) and sat back to watch the arguments. It's rather funny, if I do say so myself. BTW--Frank, aren't you going to be late for your psychiatrist appointment? :D

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DawnP

10:58 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, I'm curious. Besides being a bigot and a religious zealot (and evidently an online stalker), what do you do? Do you have a job? What's your level of education?

Laura Jackson

11:06 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Uh Duh--DawnP, I know you are "gay," but why are you stalking ME? I am a heterosexual. I'm not interested in you! Get a clue. Do YOU have a job? I think not after what you said: You said: "Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're f**ked.""

Apparently, you are one (like Frank) who expects the Government to take care of you from the time you were born until the day you die! You just said it!!! Unbelievable. I do not believe in abortion. I DO believe your parents should work and take care of you until you are old enough to attend college. After college, you should get a job and take care of YOURSELF. Why are YOU relying on ME and the Government to take care of you your entire life? What's wrong with you? Can't work? Refuse to work? You said you were "f'd" if the Government doesn't take care of you AFTER you're born??? No, DawnP--Conservative Republicans believe you should TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. GET A JOB! Can you say, "You want fries with that?" If so, then WORK!

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DawnP

11:13 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, perhaps if you would re-read my post that you are quoting, you would see that I was quoting George Carlin, who you evidently think is so hilarious.

And no, I am not gay (not sure why you keep putting that in quotes), although I don't think it's the terrible insult you seem to think it is when you call me that. I have been married for 15 years and have 3 children. I also have an advanced degree and a professional job, own my home, pay taxes, go to church on Sundays, volunteer, donate to various charities, and VOTE based on my own convictions and not what my "pastor" tells me to do.

Laura Jackson

11:08 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, Dawn--you promised you were going to leave this thread. What is wrong with you? Slightly retarded? The gay site is on another thread. Oh--sorry--thread means another blog. Oh geez--trying to explain to her is going to take forever. Too bad George Carlin died. He could help you out.

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DawnP

11:19 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Let's add "slurs against the developmentally disabled" to Laura's parade of horribles. Wow, so glad you "love everyone," Laura. I'd hate to see the awful words you'd spew against people you didn't "love."

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jag

11:42 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

For the love of all that's good in the world, can Patch PLEASE delete this "Laura Jackson" account already?

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bill bissenas

12:06 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Yes, of course. Laura says things that make liberals uncomfortable. Therefore, we must indeed censor her. We can't have differing views that upset people. Afterall, she's not very civil and we must at all times Choose Civility. Laura must be eliminated from all Patch boards. This is just common sense, isn't that correct, lefties?

Laura Jackson

11:24 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

DawnP--Get this loud and clear: George Carlin was a comedian. He made JOKES. Hello??? Do you know what that means? He doesn't actually believe what he says. He said a lot of things. Do you also believe that George Carlin wiped his neon booger on a poster? You probably do. Let's see. You have been married for 15 years. Okay--why isn't your husband working then? You have 3 children? Why are you asking the Government to take care of these 3 children for you? Did you not use protection? Not my fault. Not Brian's fault. Not Bill's fault. It's your own doing. So, since you claim you have an "advanced degree" (doubtful) and a "professional" job, then PAY YOUR OWN WAY THROUGH LIFE. You own your own home. Yay! You pay taxes. So does everyone else in this Country (except that Obama allows the illegal immigrants FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION AND NOT TO PAY TAXES--did you know that?), you go to Church (again--doesn't make you a "Christian"--sorry to inform you of that fact), and you VOTE based on your own convictions. So do I, dear. I don't do what my "pastor" tells me to do. I don't do what anyone tells me to do, dear. I live my life according to what GOD wants for MY life (not what you and other gay-activists are attempting to DICTATE I do). So, go and vote in November. Who's stopping you? BTW--if you are so educated, you must know if you quote someone, you are supposed to acknowledge the quotation BEFORE copying from that person, right?

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bill bissenas

11:31 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

"So, since you claim you have an "advanced degree" (doubtful) and a "professional" job, then PAY YOUR OWN WAY THROUGH LIFE."

Precisely.

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DawnP

11:32 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Actually, Laura, I did credit George Carlin before quoting him -- what I said, DIRECTLY BEFORE THE QUOTE, was "I absolutely have a sense of humor -- in particular, I find it hilarious that you and Bill are so enthralled by George Carlin, who was liberal, at least on "social" issues. For example: [GC quote]."

I don't know where you get the impression that my husband isn't working, that I'm asking the government to take care of my children, or that my children were anything but WANTED and PLANNED. I do in fact "pay my own way through life." Do you?

And with that, I'm done. You are a sad, hateful, misguided person who spews hate and vitriol in the name of your twisted brand of Christianity, and I'm not wasting any more of my time on you.

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bill bissenas

11:55 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

So you pay your own way, and you to force us to pay other peoples' way? Okay, got it. This is the essential nature of the liberal: they are the most generous people in the world, with other peoples' money. Laura and I don't have to agree with everything George Carlin said to agree with some of what he's said. In my case, Carlin was spot on regarding the save the earth nuts.

Laura Jackson

11:28 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Tell me this: Do you also agree with Obama when he says we, as Americans, should not mistreat the terrorists??? Because, he DID say that. That's right. YOUR tax dollars must keep the imprisoned terrorists warm, dry, comfortable, well-fed, not harmed, etc. Yet, how do they treat the American prisoner? Do they be-head them?? Do they care if they are "comfortable"? No--they do not. But, Obama cares about these terrorists, and making their lives more pleasant. Isn't that nice? He gets a gold star!

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Laura Jackson

11:37 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

LOL, DawnP. Retarded, gay, fag, etc. are all terms. Words created by MAN. You LOVE EVERYONE and yet you can call ME names and called Jesus "gay" and said things such as the Bible is a "fairy tale"? Yet, you say I'm a "bigot." Look in the mirror there, Dawn. Words are just words. They take no meaning except for that which YOU give meaning to them. So, if you are insulted by those words, please talk to the creator of them. Sorry, DawnP--I am very intelligent; however, I did not create the English language or write the dictionary. And, no--sorry--you may have mentioned George Carlin; but, you did not say those were HIS words. Now, please catch the next broom out of here. Thank you!

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bill bissenas

12:00 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

"You LOVE EVERYONE and yet you can call ME names and called Jesus "gay" and said things such as the Bible is a "fairy tale"? Yet, you say I'm a "bigot.""

Exactly. Most liberals are hypocrites. They want to save everyone from everything and split us into entitlement groups. And if you get in their way, they spew hate.

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bill bissenas

12:13 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

You're a little slow on the uptake, aren't you, Frank?

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bill bissenas

12:34 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Frank: King of the Patch Pidgeons.

Congrats!

Laura Jackson

11:40 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Dearest Dawn: I am so glad I do NOT attend your Church. I would not listen to YOUR Pastor either (seeing that he condones the ways of this world--such as being "gay" is okay and men should marry men and women should marry women). You keep your Church. I'll keep mine. You want to hear a REAL Christian? Try to tune into 780 AM Radio today between 12 noon and 1. OK? In fact, I think you should call him up and tell him your thoughts on gay marriage. Go ahead. Do it. It would be interesting to hear.

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Laura Jackson

11:45 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Yeah, Bill--didn't it sound as though DawnP was referring to herself? She certainly seems ANGRY about the System not paying for someone from birth to death. At least, she claims George Carlin said that, and she also believes in the same thing. Why don't you know, Bill--we are supposed to allow people to have as many children as they want to have and then support them until they die??? That's the Liberal views of how we are supposed to live. Talk about slavery! Yes--I do believe it STILL exists today. I am being forced to work and be a SLAVE to the System by paying for those too lazy to work! It disgusts me. Again, I understand there are some people who have a legitimate need and cannot work. And, I do not mind helping out those people. It's the ones who drive around in a Lexus, wear leather jackets, gold chains around their necks, standing in line at the Supermarket and paying for their food with FOOD STAMPS. Kills me every time!!! Ughhh!!!

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Just a guy

1:53 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura,

Have you even taken a glance the Affordable Health Care Act? How does it change the health care system, (not the health care insurance system)?

If in the past, you had chosen not to have INSURANCE,and you got sick or had an accident, were we supposed to let you suffer and die? No, you got treated. Who do you think paid for that? The biblical insurance fairy? No, EVERYBODY else paid. Hospitals charged more for everything, doctors charged more, those with health insurance paid more in premiums, to cover those costs. Is that fair? No.

requiring everyone to have insurance, (even if we have to hep pay for it), it might let some of these people go to clinics and not the emergency room, and it will cost less in the long run. (remember we are already paying for the uninsured now, just in a different way)

Why is the United States about the only country on the planet, where people become doctors to get RICH? In most other countries, doctors make a good living, and they help people. Here doctors own the office, own the x-ray service, own the MRI and imaging center, own the rehab center, and in some cases, own the hospital. Do you think it might be in their own interests to do more tests, scans, more weeks of rehab, thereby making more money from medically unnecessary procedures?

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Buck Harmon

7:37 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I have several friends that are primary care (family doctors) that are not rich and participate in barter brokerage arrangements that work very efficiently. The problem these folks have is what the new rules will do to them regarding getting payment from Medicare. They feel that the changes to medicare could potentially put them out of business, and having read the plan i would have to agree.
There already are not enough primary care doctors and the new rules will damage the existing doctors that have not been driven by greed.

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Buck Harmon

9:05 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

More pigeon poo from you...I sense surrender in your posts again little pidgey..

Just a guy

1:53 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I know for a fact that's how it works. I slipped at work, and twisted my knee. I went to my orthopedic surgeon, he wiggled my knee, and with one poke in the correct location caused some real pain. He immediately said I had a torn meniscus, and would require surgery, but I needed to get an x-ray and an MRI to confirm it. $2000 in tests later, yep, I needed surgery... yet my insurance paid for it. (actually it was workmans comp...lol)

A lot of that is doctors covering their asses, out of fear of being sued, and I get it. We need some reforms there too...

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Laura Jackson

2:08 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

You might have to keep repeating yourself to Frank, Bill. LOL. He doesn't understand about the split of "entitlement" groups. He doesn't understand what "entitlement" means. But, no need to explain it to him. He should know by know (since he is obviously in one of those "entitlement" groups). :D

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Laura Jackson

2:17 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And Richard--no need for the name-calling. You have no idea what you're talking about. I gave you three examples of why I don't care for Obama or his "healthcare plan." There's so much more though. How do you feel that he is just sitting by while Israel is getting SERIOUS threats from Iran?? He will not stand by Israel. I know this much, Richard--If GWB were still President, he'd be over there defending Israel right now! He would strike the enemy first and ask questions later. Notice how Bush NEVER wanted to have talks/make deals with the terrorists? But, Obama not only MEETS with them, he wants to have "peace talks"??? He's crazy. We're not talking about a group of Pilgrims inviting the Indians to feast with them. The Iranians are different. This radical islamic regime not only wants to kill all Christians and Jews, but they want to kill each and every American! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? The Nation of Islam will NEVER "accept" our ways of living (our freedom). So, yeah--even the Atheists (like Frank) will be killed by these people. They HATE ALL AMERICANS, and, yet, President Obama wants to have "peace talks" with them??? BTW--Bill--have you noticed that the "Liberals" are only "liberal" when it comes to themselves? If you disagree with ANYTHING they say, they are not very "liberal" (except when it comes to spewing their hatred for you). Wake up and realize that ALL AMERICANS are in danger if Iran attacks Israel! OBAMA NEEDS TO ACT NOW!

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jag

3:31 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Your lack of education (or even common sense) is astounding. Obama meets with terrorists and Muslims want to kill everyone? And earlier you were saying Obama is a Muslim and that only gay people support gay marriage so we're all evil gays, right?

I'm really hoping it's a lack of education/low IQ situation and not a deeper mental health issue. You do have someone who takes care of you, right? And they're aware of your extreme paranoia and notice that you're disconnected from reality?

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Buck Harmon

7:43 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura has nailed it again on this issue between Israel and Iran...facts are facts, and the Sheeple remain in denial. The information is easy to verify for those that care to seek the truth. I don't post links for the lazy Obama followers...apathy rules their lives.

Laura Jackson

2:24 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Oh--just to let you know, Bill. This guy Jaq (pronounced Jack, I guess) was over in the other "same-sex marriage" site. Frank informed THEM to come to THIS board. That's the reason I'm getting bashed in here (just because I told them I will vote NO to same-sex marriage). I'm CONSERVATIVE and believe in TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE. Now--I'm done talking about that subject! Just wanted you to know, Bill, why so many "new" ones are coming in here against me. It's because they are gay or know gay people and want them to get married. So, they're taking it out on me. Why? Am I supposed to get "ordained" and take some law courses and legally marry these gay people??? No. But, they DO expect me to NOT vote against them. They told me I didn't have that right. I said, "Sorry; but, this IS America, and I DO have the right to vote anyway I choose--which will be Conservative Republican and voting for ALL who support traditional and moral values." I would tell the Liberals to go ahead and shoot me; however, they don't believe in the right to bear arms. I'm beginning to wonder if they believe anything in the U.S. Constitution. Well, they say they believe in life, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness." However, happiness was not defined as having sex with one of your own. So, I suppose they want an Amendment in the Constitution that states that, as well.

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bill bissenas

2:54 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, they think they already have an amendment, the Fourteenth Amendment.

Laura Jackson

3:24 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I know, Bill. So sad; but true. What can you do?

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Just a guy

3:30 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Ok, Laura, Hit first and ask later? Is that like Ready Fire, Aim! And Yes GW Bush did exactly that. He start a was, an invasion in fact, on purpose, deliberately lied to the American people, manufactured "evidence" and cost our country and our allies about 10 TRILLION dollars. That's not counting the continued cost of the shameful way we take care of the returning vets.

I served Laura, DID YOU? DO you have ANY idea what you are talking about? I;m all for defending Israel, but damn, they have to try to help themselves. They refuse to get of the illegally occupied west bank. When the US led the way for Israel to be formed, the displaced MILLIONS of people that had been living there for almost 2 thousand years. There are reasons they aren't liked over there. (some legitimate, a lot not...) But they do very little to help themselves... Talk about religious conservatives...lol

Oh and so what if Iran gets a NUKE? The same thing should apply to them as it did the the Soviets. Sure you have one, if you use it, we turn you into a smoking glass parking lot...

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Just a guy

3:31 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And the 2nd amendment, I actually believe it was a typo. The comma that is, the part where it should be if you want a gun, you have to be in a well regulated militia. Say the National Guard... I'm cool with that. But Joe the plumber having a AK 47, or a 100 round clip for an AR15, or 20 round mags for a Glock (what? 8's not enough?)... Not so much. That amendment was written when you had flint locks, that you were lucky to hit the broad side of a barn at 50 paces. Not 50 cal ammo that can reach out and really touch someone from a mile and 1/2 away... No you really shouldn't be allowed to own one of those. Or body armor unless you are a cop or military.

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Buck Harmon

7:51 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

The Second Amendment was written so that the people would always have a means to control the government if it got out of hand. If the government has big powerful weapons at it's disposal, so should any citizen that chooses to for any reason of protection ....from government or otherwise. Dumbed down sheeple will always have a problem understanding this very basic necessity to the Republic...

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Buck Harmon

8:57 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Crystal clear on both....a pigeon will never get it...keep pooing..

Just a guy

3:46 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Ok, Bill what is your reading of the 14th? What does it mean to you?

Say I get a law passed that says only white Baptists, don't have to pay taxes, and they get 1 get out of jail free, do over.

Pretty much screws over anybody but a white Baptist don't ya think? But wait, there's that pesky 14th... with it's nasty equal protection clause. Why the heck did they write that? They did it so you couldn't pass that law... that's why.

Ok, so, I pass a law, that only married couples can pass property to other after death without probate or tax implications. Or, you can only make medical decisions for another if you are "married". Now interchange married with white Baptist. That pesky 14th again...

I really tired of being afraid to reason with stupid.

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bill bissenas

6:33 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I'm going with Justice Scalia's view on the 14th Amendment. Check it out:

google.com

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bill bissenas

6:37 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Inheritance rights and medical decisions can be given to SS couples without marriage. Many people are under the same misconception as you, that legal rights and marriage are inseparable, but they're not. This is part of lie that pro-SSM groups try to sell to the general public.

Laura Jackson

4:41 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Richard--guns don't kill people; people kill people. But, I suppose you didn't know that. I suppose you don't care for guns because you do not need them. After all, can't the black population just eat the faces off of others if they want to? That's right--I said it, since you continually bring up the "race card." Look at all of these so-called cannibalistic attacks. How many were white? None. And, guess what??? Neither were on "bath salts" or any drugs. I guess they're just plain crazy. Or, they are "LIBERALS" and believe it's okay to kill others (just not with guns). Right? Face it--MORGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS THE CANNIBAL COLLEGE!

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Laura Jackson

4:43 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And judging by your latest comment, I'm guessing that you, too, are "gay"? You obviously have something against married couples. Poor Richard. Don't move to North Carolina. They just voted there; nope--no same-sex (let's call them gays, shall we) marriages allowed! Sorry! :D

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Laura Jackson

8:43 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

No poor Frank. I definitely APPROVE of people getting married. But, MEN marrying WOMEN only. That's the "traditional" sense of marriage. I'm sorry you and your boyfriend (wide-end receiver, I presume) cannot get married "legally." You can if you move your behinds (no pun intended) to California. San Francisco is loaded with gay people. You'd blend right in. Just curious, Frank--are you the "woman" or the "man" in the relationship? I'm guessing the woman. Either way, what you do I find disgusting; so, yes--I will vote against same-sex marriage in Maryland. Besides, Frank--how many times must I tell you: I got off of that same-sex subject a while ago. I do not care to talk to a pidgeon poo fudge-packing idiot anymore. This is a POLITICAL blog. Go back and talk with your "gay" loving friends (and please take DawnP and Richard with you). Even if you want to talk about Obama, go somewhere else and talk about his "Muslim" faith (hey--those were the President's words; not MINE). He slipped. And, ask yourself--why is Obama the only President we've EVER had that refused to wear the "flag pin"? Did he burn them all? Why doesn't he recite the Pledge of Allegiance or place his hand over his heart? Why that's a TRUE AMERICAN right there! And, Frank--let's just give you an "intelligence test." Okay? What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? Do you know? If you said, "I don't know and I don't care," then you win! Now, please go back to your "gay" site.

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Laura Jackson

8:51 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, Richard--what's your problem? You said that nobody should own a gun unless they are a cop or in the military??? You're crazy. I have friends in Arizona right now that NEED guns to protect themselves. There are a lot of druggies crossing the border, along with illegal immigrants. And, THEY are carrying weapons. Why do you think Obama will NEVER set foot in Arizona? Take a guess. That's because nobody in Arizona wants to see him. Again--if my home is broken into by someone like you, I will do whatever I need to do. And, yes, I own a gun (a few actually). And, yes, I know how to shoot. I learned how to shoot a gun about 25 years ago. Oh--I would not kill the person. That would be against my religion. But, yes--I would not hesitate for a moment to "torture" someone. If my family or property were in jeopardy, I would handle it until the police arrived. So, what would YOU do? Be like Obama and sit back and do nothing??? Probably. Obama has done NOTHING for this Country. He only recently agreed to the same-sex marriage thing just to get the "gay" votes in November. And, he also doesn't want the Military to get those 3 extra days so they are able to vote. Gee--I wonder why. Could it be because he knows that the majority of the military would not vote for him? I know PLENTY of people in the military; and ALL of them said they would NOT vote for Obama. So, see how he manipulates everything? BTW--I hope you don't drive.

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Laura Jackson

9:02 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Gas prices right now are at an all-time high--getting near $4.00 per gallon. And, when Obama doesn't help to back Israel, and Iran strikes Israel, you can BET the gas prices will soar. Could go as high as $20.00 per gallon. Who knows? But, of course, none of that would have happened if we had just DRILLED HERE. We have our own supply of oil right here in the U.S. that we would never have to "depend" on other Countries. But, no--the liberals don't want to hurt the poor little trees. Let's not hurt the trees; just let the humans die. That's the Liberal's approach. As I said before and I'll say it again--this isn't a "gay" site. If you want to go there, feel free (just not here). We're talking about more important issues right now. While Frank is upset he cannot get married (probably because no other man wants him), I'm more concerned with the threats from Iran against Israel--unlike Obama (who's probably sitting in the White House right now sipping tea and discussing how he can obtain more votes in November). It's so sad. You see, Bill and Buck, what the first priorities are of these Liberals??? They do not care about America and keeping the people safe. All they care about is whether or not the taxpayers will continue taking care of them from birth until death (paying their way through life), and how they can make gay people happy by allowing them to get married to one another. Yep--their priorities in this world are most definitely screwed up!

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Laura Jackson

9:12 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, since I mentioned "Bill" and "Buck," that made me think about the whole "money" question asked by Richard. Let me tell you something. Not ALL doctors become doctors for the money. I have a family member who has gone through college, medical school, internship, residency, and now in specialty training--for a total of about 24 years of schooling to become a doctor. He's up to his eyeballs in debt right now--owing more than a half a million in student loans. However, his goal is not to become "rich." He genuinely CARES about people. I just hate these Liberals who complain that Conservatives "stereotype" people; and, yet, Richard just stereotyped ALL doctors. Yeah--"some" may be in it for the money. But, don't say ALL. In fact, if you ever saw Joel Osteen (probably not), his brother "Paul" WAS a doctor, but decided his calling was to help those in third-world countries (not paid), and then to help out with the Ministry. So, you see--not ALL doctors are the same. But, I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Because you've already grouped "people who own guns" in the category that we shouldn't be allowed to have them. So much for your continuing talks about the U.S. Constitution. We have the right to bear arms! And, no--it doesn't say, "only if you are a cop or in the military." So sorry.

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Laura Jackson

9:18 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Frank

8:13 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Bill = Rosie O'Donnell?

Come again, Frank???? Rosie is "gay" like YOU are. She's also a DEMOCRAT. I know you are confused unless you take your medication. But, I would tend to think that Bill is more like Donald Trump--TOTAL OPPOSITE OF ROSIE. He's also a Conservative Republican, extremely smart, and good with finding good-looking women to marry him--TOTAL OPPOSITE OF YOU, FRANK. There! I just cleaned up the "pidgeon poo." Please do not crap in here again! Thank you!

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Laura Jackson

9:21 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

And, before you chime in there, Frank--yes, I KNOW Donald Trump is not running for President. Geez!!! Had to say that Bill and Buck--because, Frank has a hard time understanding certain things.

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Just a guy

6:49 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura really?I never said you shouldn't own guns. But just maybe there are certain kinds of guns that you shouldn't own. It's already illegal to own a fully automatic weapon, (not prohibited, you just need a very special license.)
But really Laura, you really are sounding like a racist. "Black population eat the faces off each other" Come on, there are a lot of crazy people of all colors. Enough to go around. It's like if a person of color said all white people are mass murders. Or MIT is a school of mass murders. Let's have a list.
Ted Kaczynski, white guy that sent bombs in the mail and killed people. (Unibomber, went to MIT)
Jeffery Dahlmer, white guy that killed people, (oh wait for it...) then ate them...
Ted Bundy
David Berkowitz (Son of Sam)
James Holmes (Denver Batman mass murderer)
Timothy McVeigh
Adolf Hitler
All white guys that did really bad things. (probably mentally ill)

So now I can actually say, Laura, you are a racist and a bigot. Your statements prove it, it's not just conjecture any more. You appear to be narrow minded tight ass, that without logic or reason, (you know, facts, and evidence), wraps herself in the bible and waves a flag and calls people gay.

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Just a guy

7:14 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

And Bill, your argument about gun ownership was valid when the Constitution was written. The King's army had guns, and ships, we normal people had sticks and stones. It's not valid today.

1.) I don't care what you have, if a B52 carpet bombs you, a gun isn't going to help.
2.) if the government actually gave that order, it wouldn't be obeyed, and the military would stand down. This isn't Syria. I was in the military and swore to protect and defend the Constitution from ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. I was not required to follow an unlawful order.

I am not saying you shouldn't be allowed to own guns at all. I never have. But I've never seen a case where you needed to buy a gun, and have it that day. A 7 day waiting period seems pretty reasonable. If you have $1000 for Glock, and are afraid of staying in your house, call the police and check into a Motel 6... There are other options.

I do have a problem once you own a gun, and want to sell it. Anytime, anywhere, to anybody, with no record? Really? (obtw, that's the lesson of Fast and Furious. guys legally bought guns in Arizona. Saying they were for themselves in the store. They walk outside and then sold them to bad guys. and the AZ Attorney General says, well they changed their mind...) I mean, who needs to buy 50 AK 47's for themselves?...

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Buck Harmon

8:52 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

I think he was reffering to my very clear understanding of what the Second Amendment to the Constitution really means Bill. He just got the letters after B a little mixed up....like many of the other things that he says....senior moments perhaps??

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Buck Harmon

8:57 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard Sperry, You have your problems and I have mine... that's not to say that the Second Amendment has it wrong. If I decide that I want to buy 50 AK 47's for my personal protection that's my business. (not that I would) But who knows what the hell our failed government will do next? Matbe it is a good idea to arm entire communities using the Second Amendment rights. We could reduce the need for more police officers.

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Buck Harmon

9:01 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

The seven day waiting game is just a perceived feel good illusion. Guns are readily available everywhere if someone really needs one.That will never change with regulation of any sort. Government intrusion into the lives of private citizens is what needs to be re regulated at this point...

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Buck Harmon

9:04 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

The very fact that a government would require a seven day waiting period is an unlawful order. The government gave an unlawful order, why do you support and obey it Richard Sperry..? Are you saying that you are un American?

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Buck Harmon

4:37 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

Frank, You have graduated from pigeon poo to chicken shit, keep up the good work!

Just a guy

7:57 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura, how would killing someone to protect yourself be against your religion? The Bible doesn't say don't kill, it says don't commit murder... (at least mine does...) If I'm going to shoot someone, they are probably going to end up dead.

Oh, and I said body armor, not guns... So again your reading comprehension isn't up to par.

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Just a guy

9:07 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Yep, my bad, wanted to refer to Buck's statement that we need guns to protect us from the government...You better bring a lot more than guns. Your vote, and a MAJORITY of others that think like you do is all that's required.

Abortion? Anti abortion is the minority opinion. Personhood is even more in the minority.

No gun regulation, again, minority, (notice I said no regulation, not reasonable regulation...)

Campaign finance reform and reversal of Citizen's United decision, MAJORITY...

Regulate Wall Street greed, and hold accountable those that made the economic collapse happen, MAJORITY

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Just a guy

9:19 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

No Buck, you buying 50 AK's or AR 15's or whatever shouldn't be just your business. What good does an assault weapon when you shoot an intruder and the bullet goes through the guy, through the wall, into your neighbor's house and kills his sleeping daughter? When a shotgun is much more effective and you are actually more likely to hit what you are shooting at?

Oh heck, I just think I'll get a M-78 grenade launcher for my personal protection. Sounds like a good idea, after all, the 2nd says I have the right to bear arms.??? Oh what about that other pesky part about in there about a well regulated militia?

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Buck Harmon

9:37 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

If the gov can use them against citizens , then citizens can use them against gov.
Pretty simple if you ask me. Regarding the ridiculous scenario that you pose....Patch Pigeon spew....you will create and say anything in an attempt to make a point. I simply insist that we abide by the highest law of the land without minimizing it's effectiveness by un Constitutonal perceived law. You seem to be an un American Pigeon to me....with rather weak arguments for government intrusion by regulation.

Just a guy

10:53 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Ok, Buck, I have no idea what a patch pigeon is, but in my best playground vernacular. If I'm one so are you!...

Exactly what, and what precedents are you using to say that requiring a waiting period is unconstitutional? It's not saying you can't have a gun, just that it probably requires time to check to see if you are eligible to own one. Or do you also support the position that ANYBODY (including convicted violent felons) have the right to own guns? You think that mentally ill people with a documented history of violence should own guns? I mean the Bill of Rights doesn't exempt convicted felons.

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Buck Harmon

6:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard, These laws are not tailored for criminals or people with mental illness.. Only a fool would think that a criminal would abide by such foolishness. Criminals and the mentally ill could care less about abiding by such silly rules...that would only leave the perceived normal law abiding citizens stuck dealing with intrusive requirements that are really unnecessary and un Constitutional... Why in the hell do you think that a criminal would play by stupid rules....Only a mentally challenged person would assume such a thing. Patch Pigeon....someone that craps up a thread with really dumb comments on a regular basis...your not the king but you seem to be in the runnin.

Laura Jackson

11:53 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard: Why is it that "YOUR" Bible differs from day to day? You quote about slavery in the King James Version (which I guessed was the one you went by before). But, now you do not quote from the KJV but the NEW King James Version. Here's what the King James Version says about killing: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying . . . Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment . . . " (Matthew 5:1-2, 21, KJV)

Sorry Richard--I tell the truth. I have caught you in a lie though. You cannot possibly believe certain verses from one Bible and other verses from a completely different Bible (according to which ones suit your likings). It doesn't work that way. Either way, I consider "killing" of ANY human being murder (unless it is in a war situation). That, of course, I believe God understands. There is no other option where War is concerned. It is kill or be killed. And, that's unfortunately what this world is coming down to: probably the beginning of World War III. It's sad. Anyhow, no--I'm not a lunatic "killer" just because I own guns. Sometimes my husband and I go to the shooting range just to practice shoot. It's fun for us. But, if I "had" to use it, I would not "kill" the person. I would shoot only if I had to (in a part of the body as not to kill).

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Just a guy

7:28 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura, you do relize that the bible wasn't written in English? It's a translation. The original hebrew , here, read it yourself. http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html

Laura Jackson

12:01 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard--YOU said that MY reading is NOT up to par??? Excuse me??? I read and understood exactly what you typed out. You said, "If I'm going to shoot someone, they are probably going to end up dead." Really, Richard??? Sounds like a SERIOUS threat to me. You are going to KILL someone if you SHOOT them. One thing I DO agree with that you said, Richard--probably the "mentally ill" should not be allowed to own guns. That would include a person like yourself that shoots to kill people. You CAN shoot a person who breaks into your home; however, if you kill that person (even if THEY were first in the wrong by breaking and entering), YOU are charged with MURDER in the second degree. YOU would be the one to go to jail for life. That's not something I agree with; it's the messed up laws. I personally think if someone breaks into your house, you should be able to do whatever you want. However, your statement did not say, "If someone broke into your house. . . ." You said if you were to shoot someone, they would probably end up dead. That's messed up.

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Just a guy

7:36 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

You are correct, if I shoot somebody, they are probably going to die. If I have to shoot someone, they are a direct threat to me and my life. So yea, if I shoot them, I'm making sure they don't get up. Are you saying you would just try to wound a 6'6" 250+lb guy that is intent on doing you harm? Good luck with that. Besides, you are much more likely to hit someone in a panic situation if you aim center mass. And 1 through the pump usually kills...

You will only get charged if you let the bad guy out of the house, and then shoot them. Shooting them in the house is probably ok...lol

Laura Jackson

12:36 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

You call ME ignorant, Richard (or shall I call you "Dick" from now on?)? I love how you said, "It's like if a person of color said all white people are mass murders." Really, Richard? You're right. Not a single black person has ever been involved in a mass murder. Did you like how I made up that whole story in the news way back in October 2002? I lied and told the police in Washington, D.C., Maryland, AND Virginia that this crazy SNIPER was out shooting people EVERY DAY for THREE WEEKS. Isn't that hilarious. And, to make matters worse, I even created the story and used some names (one got executed--poor thing). The one who drove the car, John Allen Muhammed, and the scary sniper in the back (the "SNIPER" as I called him--the Beltway Sniper), was hiding in the trunk. I made up his name, too, for the sake of this "fictitious" story (which I'm thinking about making into a movie). The killer's name I gave him was Lee Boyd Malvo. Anyhow, not that ANY of that really happened. Because it didn't. It is a completely "fictitious" story, as I have said. Oh--and, Dick--for the record--in my movie, I will make these "fictitious" mass murderers black people. Okay? After all, we can't have all of the white people getting so much media attention, now can we? I wouldn't want to be prejudiced here. But, remember--this NEVER happened. So, don't get all upset now. You are right. There has NEVER in all of history been a BLACK mass murderer. EVER! (Rolling eyes right now)

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Laura Jackson

12:51 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard--you said that only white people are mass murderers? Really? Have you done your research? Well, I have--and if you google search Black Serial Killers, you will come up with 57 (that's right--57 notorious BLACK mass murderers). I'll print them out for you later, if you want me to. But, the most memorable story--how about the black boy hiding in the trunk terrorizing people across Washington, D.C., Maryland, and Virgina. His name was Lee Boyd Malvo (got six consecutive life sentences) for killing 10 people and critically injuring 3 people over a 3-week period. Did you forget about that? And, you have the nerve to call me a "racist" and a "bigot"? Look in the mirror, buddy. Because YOU just made "racist" remarks about white people being the only people who commit mass murders. Get a clue.

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Just a guy

7:41 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

lol what are you smoking?

I said, what you said was equivalent to the same statement made by a person of color... Like I said, you don't understand what you read.

Oh never mind, you racist little thing...

Steve

3:44 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Getting an endorsement from the Wasilla Hillbilly is like getting the Kiss of Death.

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Laura Jackson

7:36 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Please do not show your "ignorance," Richard. Of course, the Bible was not originally written in "English." It WAS translated. But, it was translated PERFECTLY with every stroke of every letter of every page of every chapter of every book to combine them all into ONE HOLY BIBLE. By the way, the Old Testament was written hundreds of years BEFORE Jesus was born (the scripture the Jews follow to this day). And, the New Testament was written AFTER Jesus was here, continuing AFTER His death on the Cross, and AFTER His resurrection. No need to inform me about the Bible. It is YOU that needs to know these things. And, as I said to the others (Frank, Assley, DawnP) and I will now say to you: I will no longer respond to anything that any of you have to say. I know the Lord would not approve of my associating with the sexually immoral/people who even so much as stand by the homosexuals. Therefore, I am done speaking. At least, to the four of you. My sins WILL be forgiven; because I am very close to God. Good-bye, Richard. You have no "friends" in here. So, you can join the others in "their" site--the site of darkness. Over here, those with the "traditional" views of what a marriage should be, over here with the Conservative Republican viewpoints in life--remain in the light. We can actually SEE the TRUTH. Unfortunately, the Democrats are living in darkness, which is why they are clueless. Good luck to you!

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bill bissenas

9:53 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

I don't think he's an idiot, just someone who has a fundamental misunderstanding of the origins and purpose of our government. He's not alone, there are tens of millions of people who believe as he does. This is what our education system and the media has wrought upon our nation. Reversing it will be a monumental task.

Just a guy

8:17 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

And I am a Republican, just not YOUR kind. I'm one that thinks and reasons, rather than repeats Fox 'news' taglines...

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Laura Jackson

11:21 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Richard Sperry

8:14 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura, you are an idiot.

Richard ("DICK"), I will say this to you: YOU brought up the "RACE" card first. YOU mentioned that "a person of color" (YOU ARE BLACK OBVIOUSLY) would say only WHITE people are mass murderers. You know WHY the BLACK guy at Morgan State College ate his roommate? Because someone told him (the BLACK guy) he had NO HEART and only HALF A BRAIN. SO, HE ATE THEM BOTH! And, to think--he was found not to have any drugs in his system. Unbelievable. You criticize "RACIAL" profiling. However, it is necessary at times, you fool to capture a criminal--which, by the way, 90 percent of the prisons are filled with BLACK people. BLACK people are the only ones who cry to a CIVIL RIGHTS group (NAACP--whereby they should change their name--since they are no longer called, "Colored People" but want to be called "African-Americans"--even though most, except Obama, were not born in AFRICA). No other group of people--white, hispanic, indian, or asian people have a "civil rights group." Only BLACK people cry out "discrimination," which is WHY they get all of the government benefits. One man slept all day at his desk at work (BLACK). He got the NAACP involved because he got demoted. Guess what?? Not only did he get his job back, but he got a PROMOTION. That would not happen to ANY OTHER RACE! It makes me SICK. Call me a "racist." But, the fact is that more BLACKS HATE WHITE people and always have.

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Laura Jackson

11:28 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

And, why is that, Richard? I'll tell you why. Because Black people STILL blame white people for slavery!!! And, none of US had anything to do with slavery. But, it is still being taught in schools. Black people wanted the same rights as whites and wanted to go to "white" schools. Yet, if you notice, the majority of "white" schools are now all predominantly black. And, if black people wanted to be treated the same as white people, why do they "separate" themselves into their own category? They have their own section in the library for Black History Month. Why not just have a History section? You don't see an Asian History Month or section in the Library. You don't see an Indian History Month or section in the Library. You do not separate other races or the Libraries don't separate them from the History section (only the blacks do that). Black people have their own television channel (BET). Would blacks tolerate a white entertainment television station (WET)? Nope. Blacks have their own beauty pageants strictly for THEM. Yet, white people or any other race cannot have their own beauty pageants. Black people have a thing called the Million Man March. Really? Could you imagine the outrage if white people had a Million Man March through Washington, D.C.? No--because, the white people would be called "RACISTS." I am so sick of the whole "discrimination" cries that are unwarranted. It's more of a reverse-discrimination. And, I'm racist?

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Laura Jackson

11:34 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Is that why, Richard, I dated outside of my race before I got married? And, the only reason I stopped dating THAT person was because I was "threatened" by a BLACK woman. So, yeah--black women HATE white women/indian women/asian women or any other woman who is NOT black. Then, there was the case with Don Imus. Shall I mention that one? He was FIRED from his job for calling the Ruetgers Basketball Team a bunch of "nappy-headed ho's." He even went to personally apologize to these women. They said they forgave him for his comment. Then, they filed a LAWSUIT against the man and had him FIRED from his job. Talk about a bunch of back-stabbers. And, while Don Imus was "punished" for saying "nappy headed," immediately afterwards, Halle Berry (who is BLACK) published a book called, "Nappily ever after." But, THAT was fine. Then, there are those BLACK people who say they HATE the "N" word. Really? Because, I hear them constantly say that to each other. They use the "N" word (which I do not like using myself) over and over and over in their RAP songs. It's not even "music." It is screaming loudly, not understanding a single word, except when they mention the "N" word. So, why can they say it CONSTANTLY and it's okay; but, they are "bothered" if someone else uses that term. Even Eminem caught flack (a Rapper) for using the "N" word in one of HIS OWN RAP SONGS. Is that fair? No, it is not. So, do NOT call me a racist, Richard. You do not KNOW me at all!

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Laura Jackson

11:42 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Everything I have stated (above) is all based on FACTS. There are so many other instances I could mention, but it would take too long to talk about. And, I really do not choose to talk to someone with such little regard for me or who puts me down just because I said I was a Conservative Republican and because I said I oppose same-sex marriage. It's like talking to a wall. And, I don't care to have anything to do with you anymore. I'm sure Brian, Bill and Buck all feel the same about you--as they have said, "Pidgeon Poo." You are no better than the other people in the "same-sex marriage site." So, why don't you go over there and speak to them. Apparently, they will all agree with everything you say, and they all have the SAME beliefs as you do. They are all gay or gay supporters. They all claim they LOVE EVERYONE (except those like me who disagree with their lifestyle--so what). And, because I have a mind of my own and say what is on my mind, and state my strong religious beliefs, they call me a BIGOT for that??? You call me a "BIGOT" AND AN "IDIOT." Well, let me leave YOU with one last thing, "Dick." On "name-calling" with words that end with the "IT" sound, I would much rather be called a "BIGOT" or an "IDIOT" than to be a "FAGGOT." OH NO. I said a bad word. Whatever! I call 'em like I see 'em. And, you have no business in THIS site (seeing that you disagree and argue with everyone here).

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Laura Jackson

11:49 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

You've made it perfectly clear, RICHARD--you HATE the BIBLE and its translations (especially the SLAVERY part, which you have NO understanding of its meaning); you HATE GOD; you believe the Bible is a FAIRY TALE; you agree with others in the other site that Jesus was/is GAY; you SUPPORT everything the same-sex people say; you HATE guns, etc., etc. So, if you really want to see a "HATER" of EVERYTHING AMERICA STANDS FOR, GO LOOK INTO A MIRROR, RICHARD. Oh--one last thing: You said it would be fine to shoot a person in your house and kill him so long as it wasn't outside. Please, please, please do that! I KNOW many cops, Richard. And, all say it is NOT okay to KILL anyone (even if they ARE inside of your house, as in breaking and entering). So, please kill anyone who breaks into your house. Then, the statistics would just go up for those of YOU who are in jail. Then again, seeing you approve of men being with men (as you have said), jail must just be a great place for you to live. From what I've heard, that's what happens there. Why? Because, men are stuck living with men when they serve their life sentences. Good day to you, sir! And, do not EVER say you served in the Military. I can tell by the way you act and talk that you have NO RESPECT whatsoever for American Citizens. You agree with Obama and don't want to back up Israel (which is not an OPTION). It is a NECESSITY! So take your Ditzy Democratic, gay-supporting behind and leave this site (PLEASE). DONE!

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Laura Jackson

11:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

And, do NOT insult the rest of us by calling yourself a "Republican." You don't even know what that means. You don't believe in ANYTHING Republicans believe in. And, I do not believe for one second you served in the military. Not buying it. After all, you HATE guns. How could you be in the military and get away with not having to handle a gun??? Doesn't work that way. I KNOW THIS. MY FATHER WAS IN THE MILITARY. He fought in WWII, was captured by the Germans, was tortured by the likes of Hitler, held in a Prison Camp for over a year (when most of them died from starvation). After receiving not one--but TWO PURPLE HEARTS--he got an Honorable Discharge (where he spent over a year in the Veteran's Hospital). So, don't dishonor this Country by attempting to make yourself out to be a hero. A hero who HATES guns, HATES AMERICANS. I stood up in the other site and said that when IRAN IS THREATENING ISRAEL and wants to kill ALL JEWS, CHRISTIANS, and ALL AMERICANS, you laughed and joined in with the other "gays" over in that site. You are nothing to me. Worst of all, you are NOTHING to God. God lives within me, and I trust in Him. I trust in His WORD. You do not. So, I will let go and let God. And, the wrath I feel right now will be nothing compared to the wrath you will feel when YOU, sir, stand before God come Judgment Day. You are the HATER. Not ME. I just stand up for myself, stand up for God, stand up for Jesus Christ, and stand up for Americans! BYE, DICK!

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Just a guy

7:56 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

Wow.. I hate the bible? Nope. I hate the people that think they can pick and choose what they will take from it and beat other people up with.

And one more thing. If God is all powerful, sees everything, chooses when to let all people die? Why does he need your help? Why don't you just live your lift to the best example that YOU can, and let him sort out the rest... After all this world is not the final reward. Faith alone won't get you into heaven, it's also your acts... Please read the ENTIRE bible.

I'm not against all guns, just some of them... Pretty reasonable if you ask me...

I served in the US Navy, I went to sea on ballistic missile submarines, (1980-1990) and stood guard so that you have the freedom to be the racist, bigoted, dumbass that you clearly show you are. What did YOU do?

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Buck Harmon

4:31 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

I understand your problem now...once sea sickness settles into the head it's hard to shake. You say some really dumb things....

Sandra James

10:19 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

Frank, I've endured your rants for over a week. So many, this leads me to believe you are not gainfully employed. Get a job and get off the subject due to the fact you are severely misguided.

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Just a guy

5:06 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

At least I served Buck, what have you ever done?

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Buck Harmon

5:34 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

Frank , I am currently serving in an elite Nunya division that serves to protect the privacy rights of citizens if you must know..

Alissa

7:17 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Is there some reason I should care who Palin endorses?

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Just a guy

8:02 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

no...lol Well, maybe it tells you who not to vote for?

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Just a guy

9:25 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I think buck was trying to be cute. Like none ya business... Again, a miserable fail...

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Buck Harmon

9:48 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

You got it Just a guy, you must be a genius to figure that one out.....now, figure out why you don't have what it takes to use a real name and you will have done yourself a favor...

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Buck Harmon

10:28 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Frank...sorry...it's just my nature...first step to any restoration project is to remove to rot. I view this blog as a kind of restoration project in that several opportunities exist for me.
First~ the opportunity to engage in some semblance of meaningful conversationto attempt to understand and hopefully contribute to potential solutions to the many problems that our society and country endure.

Second~ To actively seek out the rot that seems to hinder the first, if you are a part of the rot....I'll let you know it....it's all a part of an existing condition survey being conducted on the Patch blogs....actually very interesting stuff from my park bench perspective... poo away...have a great day!

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