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After the Conventions: Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election, Obama or Romney?

Now that the Democratic and Republican delegates have officially chosen their nominees, Patch wants to know: Who are you betting on?

It's official: With President Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Charlotte Thursday night, both the Republicans and Democrats have formally chosen their nominees for the 2012 presidential election. Let the real race begin.

A lot can change between now and Nov. 6: Gaffes, scandals or even major international news events could shift the dynamics of the campaign.

The latest Gallup Polls show registered voters preferring Obama to Mitt Romney by just one percentage point, 47 percent to 46 percent. A USA Today/Gallup poll taken just before the party conventions found American voters think Obama is more likeable, but trust Romney more to handle the economy.

Pundits have been busy for months handicapping the major-party candidates on various factors: incumbent advantage, fundraising clout, even religion.

Patch wants to know: Regardless of who you support for President, who do you think will actually claim victory in November?

Vote in our poll below, and let us know your thoughts in our comments section.

Just a guy September 24, 2012 at 11:03 am
Ok Shawn, maybe you need a civics lesson. What exactly do you think the President does?
1.) He can either sign into law bills that the legislative branch passes, or he can veto. 2.) He has limited powers as Commander in Chief of the military. 3.) He has limited power to direct agencies that fall under the Executive branch. 4.) Executes treaties with foreign countries, that must be approved by the Senate And that's about it. What liberties (exactly) have you lost? And if you have lost any, really try to blame the Legislature. Come on, be specific... Raise your game a little...
JoAnn Nicholls September 24, 2012 at 11:48 am
Hmmmm, you forgot this little tidbit Just a guy....this is what they do when they cannot get the Congress or Senate to sit up pretty for them...
http://1461days.blogspot.com/2009/01/current-list-of-president-obamas.html I especially love executive order #13575, maybe why O'Shameless signed the similar version of Plan Maryland?
Buck Harmon September 24, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Nice post JoAnn..thanks..
Buck Harmon September 24, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Definition of a congress ~ A gathering of ,or group of baboons...
Just a guy September 24, 2012 at 01:43 pm
What's wrong with that order. It coordinates various Executive branch departments, to see what they could do better. It allocates no addition funding above current levels. What's your problem with it?
JoAnn Nicholls September 24, 2012 at 02:11 pm
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/DCPD-201100431/pdf/DCPD-201100431.pdf
Well, besides the ENTIRE document, why don't we begin with the list of chairpersons in section 3? Why don't you take each one, Just a Guy, and tell me what significance any of these chairpersons should partake in rural communities, farms and land, and why? After you're finished that, then please show everyone here, where is the authority in the Constitution for both state and federal government to push this on the citizens?
Just a guy September 24, 2012 at 09:39 pm
Ok, section 3.
Treasury, money, maybe how to effectively use resources, like federal spending recommendations to the President so he can ask Congress to do something? Defense? We have bases in rural areas? I think so... Justice? Law enforcement and jails? Interior: It's in charge of rural... Use of federal land and interests... Commerce, Labor, HHS, Urban development, Transportation, ... All of them could effectively have inputs... Again what's your problem? You think they have a secret agenda? Really? Did you read section 4? The actual mission? Executive orders have been used since the 1780's. It is what it is.. If Congress doesn't like it, let them pass a law that reversing it. There is and are Executive privileges...
Shawn September 24, 2012 at 11:53 pm
In the decade since Sept. 11, 2001, this country has comprehensively reduced civil liberties in the name of an expanded security state. The most recent example of this was the National Defense Authorization Act, signed Dec. 31, which allows for the indefinite detention of citizens. At what point does the reduction of individual rights in our country change how we define ourselves?
Shawn September 25, 2012 at 12:01 am
Keep drinking the cool aide Just a guy and watching dancing with the stars. Obviously you have absolutely no idea about who really controls the USA and their agenda. Good luck, you're going to need it.
Just a guy September 25, 2012 at 01:49 am
The detention aspect is currently being litagated, with a Federal court and the appeals court striking it down. It will be heard by the USSC.
It's called checks and balances... All I know is I haven't lost any liberties. None!
Shawn September 25, 2012 at 10:41 am
Just a guy, unlike you many people are awakening to the tyranny being committed by elected officials with a fiduciary responsibility to their constituents not to the people who are expanding their net worth. Checks and balances.....you crack me up! To become informed you actually need to question what you have been spoon fed. Granted it takes effort on your part, and it's much easier to believe what you have been told. I too was once asleep like you. Now go back to sleep, dancing with the stars is about to start.
Just a guy September 25, 2012 at 11:39 am
OK Shawn, I'll assume that you want me to go to sleep so you can watch DWTS? Why not turn off that crap, and maybe read a book? Maybe read a book by someone with a different point of view? Maybe not something by anyone that's ever been on Fox "news". Somebody that's not part of the far right wing, nutbag teaballer, conspiracy theory party...
Buck Harmon September 25, 2012 at 11:53 am
You are in denial Just a guy...
Buck Harmon September 25, 2012 at 12:00 pm
If you're old enough to vote this year, then you're old enough to remember
a Democratic president with a Democratic Congress; a Republican president with a Democratic Congress; a Republican president with a Republican Congress; and a Democratic president with a Republican Congress. Taken together, these four periods exhaust all the ways power can be split between the two major parties in Washington. What did all these periods have in common? Government got bigger. That’s a problem, not because government is always bad, but because the proper functions of government do not require it to be very big. Government today is big not primarily because of waste or indolence, but because we have asked it to do too many things. And now, thanks to both Democrats and Republicans, the relentless growth of our government has brought us to financial calamitOur government can't pay its bills, but it won't stop borrowing or spending. As a result, the government is currently headed for insolvency. Our economy badly needs jobs and investment from the private sector, but instead of encouraging private enterprise our elected officials continue to concentrate power and money in Washington. We need to change course, and we need to do it now. The new course we should chart is not really new to people who know our history.
Buck Harmon September 25, 2012 at 12:00 pm
It's actually a return to the values that made our country great. It's a return to individual liberty, limited government, economic freedom, and the good sense to mind our own business in military matters. That's the Libertarian way forward, and it's a way that the two major parties both abandoned years ago."
JoAnn Nicholls September 25, 2012 at 02:10 pm
just a guy gets an f- on his assignment to go through the board members of executive order #13575 and define what purpose each would play in rural communities....he named four, there are twenty five members to this board and this unconstitutional act.....in addition, just a guy did not show where the authority is in the state and federal constitution that would allow for Dear Leader to force this on his kingdom???
Just a guy September 25, 2012 at 02:35 pm
Ok Joann, what's your problem? Why would the creation of a commission of already existing personnel, that requires no new funding, whose purpose it to find a way to do things better, be unconstitutional?
Force what??? WHAT PART got your panties in such a twist? And jeez, if it's SO UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!! why has it been going on since 1780 and almost 14,000 of them? Get over it. Or go live in Old Williamsburg and churn butter, and burn whale oil, since they didn't have electricity back then.
Just a guy September 25, 2012 at 02:37 pm
I am so tired of trying to reason with stupid.
JoAnn Nicholls September 25, 2012 at 02:41 pm
stop your temper tantrum just a guy......I'm asking you, the lover of big government, to show all of us dummies who want to be left alone and who bother no one nor break any laws, where is the authority in both the state and federal constitution for this executive order???? SHOW US!!!
Shawn September 25, 2012 at 09:31 pm
Just a guy this is an adult forum, please keep your child like political rhetoric to yourself, thus not to display your ignorance before all who care to waste their time reading your pathetic posts. Thank you.
Shawn September 25, 2012 at 09:37 pm
I'm convinced "Just a guy" is a troll. It is painfully obvious just a guy is lacking the necessary intelligence to have an adult debate, let alone have the ability to actually make any valid points.
Steve September 25, 2012 at 09:43 pm
Oh no! Not more of the Sovereign Citizen nuttiness.....
Just a guy September 25, 2012 at 09:51 pm
Syawn, I'm a troll? You're the one spouting tyranny, and conspiracies...
Joann seems to hate all government, but I bet she actually likes clean air and water, and having a cop or fire fighter when she really needs one... I wonder what she thinks Chief Executive means... Maybe she yearns for GW Bush being the Chief Decider...
Shawn September 25, 2012 at 10:40 pm
That's right a troll. As for tyranny unfortunately that's as obvious as the nose on your face. Conspiracies? What conspiracies? The only conspiracy is that voters actually have a choice in the 2012 election.
JoAnn Nicholls September 26, 2012 at 12:39 am
here's your future just a guy....coming to a socialist country nearest you....."the problem with socialism is when you run out of other people's money" and when it happens here, you'll be right in that crowd doing everything you can to beat back those cops to get your money they owe you...the same cops you're defending here....hahahaha...I can't wait loser!!!
Check out this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj0ZR51ONjw&feature=youtube_gdata_player Sent from my iPad
Just a guy September 26, 2012 at 02:26 am
Joann, you have got to be kidding me.... Really? Video of police trying to control an unruly bunch of protesters, without attribution or context?
Mam, have you got issues.
Shawn September 26, 2012 at 10:36 am
Actually JoAnn has a valid point unlike just a guys ignorantly childish "it's not true because they say it's not" views. We are one "national emergency" away from martial law. President Obama signed an Executive Order for “National Defense” in March of 2012 that claims executive authority to seize all US resources and persons, including during peacetime, for self-declared “national defense".
JoAnn Nicholls September 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I'm still waiting for the troll to answer my question on where the authority is in our state and federal constitution for the other executive order #13575 that Dear Leader MaoBama signed. I believe the one you speak about Shawn #13603 was signed this spring 2012. most likely so he can call off the election...so just a guy, show us all your infinite knowledge and show us where that authority is? I'm waiting....
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness
Buck Harmon September 26, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Keep up the good work on this one ...
Shawn September 27, 2012 at 12:22 am
IMHO I believe the next "national emergency" will be of the financial matter. The federal reserve has initiated an unlimited quantitative easing to the tune of $40 Billion a month forever. QE essentially is an influx of capital (electronic money created by the fed AKA more debt) which will lead to inflation and God forbid hyperinflation.As of January 2013 the FDIC stops offering 100% coverage for all insured deposits. Lets not forget the darkest storm cloud the unregulated derivatives market (estimated to be somewhere north of $160 trillion dollars) that was responsible for the 2008 sub prime mortgage collapse. Instead of regulating the derivative markets the good folks in charge turned a blind eye (and have greatly profited from doing so) to the derivative markets and thus has exponentially expanded the derivative markets. Imagine waking up one morning and finding there has been a "banking holiday" declared where no matter how much money you have in your bank accounts you are unable to withdraw a single cent. Think it cant happen? Better think again, all the necessary pieces are in place for a financial collapse. When a normally law abiding family finds they have been lied to by their government and their money is worthless they will do what ever is necessary to provide for their family and that will result in civil unrest at the very least. We all know what civil unrest leads to.....martial law.

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Justice June 19, 2013 at 03:21 pm
what model and what was the last map update?