Frazier: Vote for Same-Sex Marriage is ‘Vote Against Children’

The Board of Commissioners has proclaimed Feb. 7-14 “Marriage Week,” recognizing heterosexual unions.

Carroll County Commissioner Robin Frazier, R-District 1, this week announced the Board’s proclamation of Feb. 7-14 as “marriage week,” recognizing marriage as an institution that “binds men and women together in a network of mutual aid and mutual obligation,” according to the document signed by the five commissioners.

This is the second year that the board has adopted such a proclamation. The document is part of an international marriage week movement led by National Marriage Week USA and other organizations in 16 countries.

The purpose of the movement is to recognize and promote marriage, understanding, according to the organization’s website, that “social science is clear that children are best served when they grow up with both a mother and father.”

Frazier, pointing out the yellow button she was wearing that read “Proud to be a coward. Defend marriage,” reported back during Tuesday’s open meeting from a rally she attended against same-sex marriage in Annapolis Monday.

The rally was in response to Senate Bill 241 and Gov. Martin O’Malley’s support of marriage equality.

“Maryland is the seventh state that was admitted to the union by ratifying the Constitution of the United States. We can also be the seventh to pass a civil marriage equality law,” said O’Malley in a Facebook post. “I look forward to working together over the next few months to get this bill passed.”

The portion of the open meeting discussing Carroll County’s Marriage Proclamation was not on the revised agenda for the week and was discussed in an empty boardroom Tuesday.

During her speech, Frazier mentioned the rally in Annapolis and how Carroll County residents need to get involved by writing to their representatives. 

“Lawyers Mall was full. There were people of all ages, all backgrounds, all religions and basically they were there to say we support God’s law and Maryland’s law of marriage being one man and one woman,” said Frazier.

She said that a vote for marriage equality is “a vote against children because the studies show that the healthier, safer, most successful road for children is to be raised by one man and one woman.”

In a statement to Patch, Haven Shoemaker, R-District 2, agreed with Frazier saying, “Traditional marriage between a man and a woman has been the cornerstone of Western civilization for a few thousand years now, and should not be messed with. Plain and simple.”

Following Tuesday’s meeting, the Carroll County Commissioners had their website updated to include a link to the Maryland Marriage Alliance website, which caused one local group to protest.  

“One of our members of PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) of Carroll County complained to the webmaster and only then did they move the link to the ‘Marriage Proclamation’ section,” said Matt Gibbons, a member of the Westminster chapter of PFLAG. 

Gibbons, 55, of Union Bridge, is openly gay and said a bill for marriage equality in Maryland is long overdue.

“I met my spouse, Hank, in 1987 at the gay Catholic organization, Dignity. We have been together for 24 years. We espoused ourselves to each other without consent of either society or the law,” said Gibbons.

“We do not see why young people should have to go through what we went through nor live as second class citizens without the full protection of the law.”

June Horner of Eldersburg became involved in PFLAG in 1984 when she discovered her son was gay.

She admits at first she did not understand or support gay marriage but now she is fighting for it.

“I am saddened to see that our commissioners understand SB 241 -- the Marriage Protection Act -- to be an attack on the institution of marriage and that marriage as they understand it must be defended from change,” said Horner. “They are mistaken. However, I doubt anything I say here will change their minds or alleviate their fear.”

Horner attended the Judicial Proceedings Committee Hearing on Senate Bill 241 on Jan. 31. 

“I witnessed the testimony of some church leaders claiming, as do our own Carroll County Commissioners, that marriage must be between one man and one woman, that the definition of marriage has always been the same, and that it cannot change. This is simply not so.” 

Bonnie Grady February 11, 2012 at 02:01 AM
And you can just bet that at least one of them (cough, cough, Frazier, cough, cough) will be putting in for milage to and from the event, as she often does. Is that how you like to see your tax dollars spent?
Native February 11, 2012 at 03:05 AM
So? Like I said before, just give them cars & they won't need to submit milage reports.
Buck Harmon February 11, 2012 at 03:33 AM
WOW... that church must REALLY have some clout... wonder if 3 commissioners have attended any other church function at one time... Lame suggestion Native... Could you please explain the in appropriate actions of this BOC . The little dig comments are pointless... unless you can justify them..
Native February 11, 2012 at 04:06 AM
Ahh, I see you agree with me. All the little digs that you & Bonnie & the rest of the haters here throw around are indeed pointless. Now that we have probably produced the longest running thread in Patch history, I have said my peace. Mr Burger & Vengence, thanks for the support & I'll see you on the next one.
County Citizen February 11, 2012 at 03:12 PM
withavengeance, you might want to brush up on your fact-checking skills then. Or perhaps get a tutor (I could help you out if you want) :) Remember, this discussion isn't about religion - it's all about abuse of power and incorporating religion into law where it's not allowed. Regardless of the founding father's religion, they were broad-minded enough NOT to impose religion, actually, just the opposite - they require freedom of religion and separation of church and state. So if that is where you are getting your inspiration, you will actually find you are on our side afterall!
County Citizen February 11, 2012 at 03:24 PM
I agree with you on that, Native. Sadly, all the concerns vioced are pointless in the end. Words vented do little to change the system. If you're dealing with a corrupt system, even actions have little consequence. The BOC are the equivalent to the bullies in the schoolyard. No one truly likes them, but those who stand up against them have no recourse, those that support the end result, if not the process, protect them, and the rest feel helpless and just turn a blind eye and focus on protecting their own families and doing the best they can do. The only peace of mind is in knowing the justice will come in their end here on earth, when they have to face the one they purport to love and serve. Lord have mercy on their souls when they are faced with his vengeance of wha they did in 'his name'. As much as I don't respect them, as much as I may disagree with them, even I wouldn't wish that on them. But I can't deny the justice of it.
County Citizen February 11, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Had to share this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbmbdWK6338&sns=fb
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 05:41 PM
they are more than welcome to make fools, liars, and adulters, whatever--ON THEIR OWN TIME--Not wearing the hat of Carroll County Commissioner...THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 05:42 PM
there's that wicked humor again...love it...
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 06:20 PM
why use the term "haters"--unnecessary and judgmental...people should respect other's opinions without those terms... If you were aware of the choices between using a private vehicle, and a County car...perhaps you would be more aware of the differences and understand why some people object...
Bonnie Grady February 11, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Now here is the flip side: http://www.eyeoncarroll.com/
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 09:51 PM
WOW!! I'm not sure about some aspects of this...but it sure does paint a picture of what goes on in public...wonder just what goes on BEHIND those doors...Spread the word...great work to whomever...thanks for the site...
Bonnie Grady February 11, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Judy, you can sign up for it. I got it in an email the first time. It came from eyeoncarroll@hotmail.com. There was a place to subscribe so I did. I think I've gotten three or four of them but they're all good. Whoever it is, it looks to me like a group is creating it rather than one person. I can't imagine that anyone would have that much time on their hands. But then, I'm not a blogger so I don't know what's involved.
Buck Harmon February 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that as she is reading, she is very uncomfortable.... you can see.. as she toughs through it. In her heart of hearts she believes what she believes, but still knows that she is doing something that is kind of dumb... she just can't seem to figure it out... The others.. well... they really have no excuse. A clear violation of the Constitution as well as a mis representation of many if not most of the citizens of Carroll... Will this just go away...??
Buck Harmon February 11, 2012 at 10:08 PM
The tone in her voice is even a little fractured, considering there are no citizens in the audience.... she should have been comfortable in the element. Very telling video....thanks..
Buck Harmon February 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM
I'd like to see a similar site that touts or supports the behavior of the BOC.. does one exist ?
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Thank you for the link...I shall subscribe/sign up...whatever...if possible...
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I tried all that but just got the original article from the Eldersburg Patch...so what am I doing wrong???
Bonnie Grady February 11, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Buck, ha ha! Yeah, it's called the Carroll County Government website! You can see each commissioner's personal political and religious views and opinions on there!
Buck Harmon February 11, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Thought so..... still seeking the good stuff.... it's gotta be there.... I got the same Judith...the hotmail link didn't take me anywhere..
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 10:38 PM
the one I originally saw was forwarded to me, but I would like to subscribe...any ideas of what might be happening...I put the eyeoncarroll@hotmail.com. in, but just get the Eldersburg Patch site... If you put it in your contacts list, it puts the address in, but you still don't get anything but a blank....help?!
Judith M. Smith February 11, 2012 at 11:10 PM
I figured it out. That's just an email address. I send an email and said "Subscribe Me" and I got a message back saying "done'. But the actual website address is www.eyeoncarroll.com. Someone posted that on another blog on Patch several days ago. But I got it from an email that someone sent me.
Judith M. Smith February 13, 2012 at 10:03 PM
That website is a real eye-opener...certainly gives another point of view to the public!!
Bonnie Grady February 13, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Buck Harmon February 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM
now.... to get much more of the public to view it....thanks Patch..
Judith M. Smith February 14, 2012 at 05:22 AM
If you have a contact email list...use it and let your contacts understand that the CCTs may be unable to give more than just a couple of various points of view...and not a continuous thread such as you can see here. This outlet is a great way of being able to give opinions about matters without have the letters chosen by a gatekeeper...I sympathize that the CCT is beholden to its subscribers...but a huge void is created by people with opinions and no place to express them...Patch IS THE PLACE!!! Comments are unedited and there is an openess about being able to have the tussle back-and-forth needed for good dialogue...But please check out Eyeoncarroll.com---another terrific source of a different point of view without ranting and hysteria...
Michael February 16, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Some things are flat-out wrong on multiple levels. Gay marriage is one of them. Gay activists often claim that hetersexuals fare little better than homosexuals in regard to the duration of relationships. The research, however, indicates that homosexual relationships last only a fraction of the length of most marriages. A 2001 national survey published in the "Journal of Sex Research" found that 77 percent of married men and 88 percent of married women had remained faithful to their marriage vows. A 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Census survey of 7,862 homosexuals involved in a "current relationship" found that few such relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting hundreds of lifetime partners. Only 15 percent had lasted 5 years or longer, with 5 percent lasting more than 10 years. This indicates that few homosexual relationships achieve the longevity common in heterosexual marriages. "The Handbook of Family Diversity" study of monogamous homosexual couples reported each had an average of three to five sex partners within the past year. Research indicates that the average male homosexual has hundreds of sex partners in his lifetime. All of this information is easy to find, yet is largely ignored and/or discounted by those supporting gay marriage. Not mentioned is very high rate of HIV/AIDS caused by homosexual promiscuity. Why would anyone what to promote homosexual behavior by giving it any kind of credence?
Bonnie Grady February 22, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Can you please reconcile this sentence for me, keeping in mind the 50%-and-climbing divorce rate? "A 2001 national survey published in the "Journal of Sex Research" found that 77 percent of married men and 88 percent of married women had remained faithful to their marriage vows."
Michael February 23, 2012 at 12:26 AM
fhttp://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02 Lots of statistics here, but if you look down the page under “ MONOGAMY VS. PROMISCUITY: SEXUAL PARTNERS OUTSIDE OF THE RELATIONSHIP”....Married Couples,.... you will see this stat and others. It takes a while, but if you read the entirety of this article highlighting various studies, it is filled with some staggering and revealing information that the ill-informed and misinformed don't know.
sid March 24, 2012 at 11:20 PM
We need to defend traditional marriage. Join us. https://twitter.com/#!/ProMarriageMd http://www.protectmarriagemd.org/


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